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Old 15th July 2005, 7:08am   #58
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Re: Oi

haha ooh you certainly have... miaow!

Firstly Chubby Chris from Combat 84 is not a member of C18, is not a 'well known nazi' as he hasn't lived in the UK for over a decade - he lives in Thailand, married to a thai woman and owns a bar in Phuket called 'the dogs bollocks'. I will grant you that in his youth he probably had some degree of contact with the NF, but if you watch the BBC documentary 'Skinheads' which is basically a doc about Combat 84's members, he doesn't come across as any more racist than your average ned. Its good he grew up anyway cos he does come across as a bit of a twat, the worst he comes out with is the sort of alf garnett view that immigrants are getting all the good jobs at the expense of whites, and this is discriminatory. Overall the documentary brought home the reality of 80s britain, grey, misarable and poverty stricken - the huge queues for the dole office and the form filling going on when there arent any jobs around explains peoples resentment, and shows the sort of latent racism that thrives on conditions like that. Also they were little more than kids just out of school in the documentary, and the violence at the gig at the end ensured they'd get no gigs in the UK ever again so the band split soon after.

The reason we covered the song is cos in 'Skinheads' the bass player comes out with a lot of anti-racist arguments, ie 'we are actually closer than people think to the blacks, people look down on us because of our appearance, we're scapegoated and we get all the worst jobs, but we choose to look like this. They don't have that choice.' Definitely not a nazi band.

On File shouldnt be covering songs like that in my opinion. Some bands think its legit to cover old skrewdriver stuff but i dont.

My question is, when did skinhead change from being a multi-racial look (ie '69 when it started) to being 'fascist imagery'? If you choose a point in time (1983 say) then presumably everyone is flirting with fascist imagery, even the older skins who'd been about since 1969?

Doesnt add up to me...

Oh yeah, just outta interest how did you know we played that, have you seen us live?
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