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Old 12th August 2005, 3:02pm   #13
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Re: With all the erudition of a drunken 15 year old......

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Hey, don't be presumptuous, I didn't say I believe in intelligent design either!Of course I believe in evolution, that is completely self evident. That doesn't mean that life is an "accident" though.
If something is not accidental, it is deliberate. I am guessing you're in the "guided evolution" camp if you think accidental evolution is absurd yet you still think evolution is correct. But Guided evolution is really just an unusual version of Intelligent Design. If I am mistaken then please, tell us what your opinion is.

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Oh thats lengthy and I'm not aware of all the facts, it basically it showing that nothing is absolutely as it is and the scope of human perception is miniscule in comparison to eveything there is to be perceived. Quantum Physics is the study of the nature of reality... but I could talk for ages and ages about that.
None of which suggests to me that Quantum Physics is at odds with the idea that life is an accident. If you don't want to get into it then fine, but you shouldn't have brought it up!

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There are astrophysicists pushing a theory that the equations for certain things that happen to celestial bodies, putting them in the places they are are "perfect" and not by chance. IE. The fact that life did evolve on this planet was necessary, not a freak coincidence. So many factors were of course involved, the right distance for the sun, the capture of the moon (I did a lot of reading about this and no one is really sure how the fuck the moon came to be orbiting round the earth, see my journal entry on it here: http://www.livejournal.com/users/varimademe/70655.html) And of course the inherant response to that is well, if it didn't happen we wouldn't be here to discuss it, this is an excellent argument, but we are here! So lets!

I'm going to do some more reading on it in the future.
I'm not sure how we can really discuss that. I mean, you put both sides of the argument quite succinctly, and since nobody knows the truth, anything we add would be nothing more than conjecture, would it not?

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