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Old 12th August 2005, 4:06pm   #17
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Re: With all the erudition of a drunken 15 year old......

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Originally Posted by TragicHero
No, I just said that life isn't an accident.
You are making me repeat myself. If something is not an accident, then it is deliberate. Deliberation requires intellect. Is it the "design" part that you take issue with, then?

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Originally Posted by TragicHero
How the fuck did the universe get here?

I'm not saying god created it, I don't believe that. I even wonder what the point in creating it would be if you were god, killin' some time coz you're lonely?

But it was created nonetheless and since accepted science says something can't be made out of nothing I ask you to tell me how that something got there in the first place other then the fact that it was supposed to be there.
I don't pretend to know how the universe got here, I could tell you which theory sounds most plausible to me but I doubt that will help much. As for "accepted" science (accepted by whom exactly?), thats a bit of a red herring. Science is always changing, what is thought to be true today may tomorrow turn out to be hokum.

By the way, you're begging the question when you say "it was created nonetheless". I don't think it was created at all. At the end of the day there are only two possibilities:
(1) Something CAN be made out of nothing. In which case, why not the universe coming from nothing.
(2) Something CANNOT be made out of nothing. In which case, SOMETHING had to be here all along. In which case, why not assume the thing that was here all along, is the universe.

Also, its worth pointing out that how the universe got here has absolutely nothing to do with evolution. Perhaps this part might be better moved to a new thread.

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