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Old 19th September 2007, 4:43pm   #52
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Re: Student tazed for not having ID

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Well.. first of all.. there's no such things as 'safe' restraint..
No means of restraint is entirely 'safe' in terms of being free from discomfort but there are certainly 'safe' ways of restraining someone it all comes done to reasonable force. Hell if they can be taught to care workers in this country I'm fairly sure they can be taught to the American police as well (although by all accounts the disparity in deaths due to 'improper' use of restraint (something like 16 odd in the UK compared with 160 odd in the US IIRC (not sure if thats just in care or altogether for all services using restraint like) begs to differ))

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Secondly.. if you're trying to detain someone, and they dont want to be detained and become violent, what are you supposed to do, just walk away and let them go?
I'm not saying beating people is the answer, but the chances are, in a struggle, someones gonna get hurt. If you dont struggle, dont resist the detention, then you're not gonna get hurt.. simple really.
Reasonable force. Simple really the force used to detain someone should be the minimum amount of force nessecary for the threat they present. Doesn't nessecarily mean the police have less 'rights' in this regard there was a case somewhere (I think in the UK) where someone recieved a few cuts from a machete and that was deemed reasonable force. Mainly because he was holding a gun to someones head like.
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