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Old 13th April 2008, 9:17pm   #65
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Re: Good first dates.

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I'm not saying that I'm socially adept, or smart. I think that surely it'd be worse to force them into a one-on-one situation of any kind if they're not comfortable talking to each other. I understand that it's none of my business, and don't know the people involved, but if they're so awkward around each other then surely the best thing to do would be to ensure that they go out as part of a group (to remove the pressure of actually going out on a date), adding alcohol, and seeing if their self-consciousness is lowered enough so that things work out? If they can't hold a conversation, then is it literally just physical attraction that is causing this whole idea of getting the two of them to hook up?
As MarkMono said, some people simply aren't that socially adept. Neither my best mate nor this girl are, it's been a long time since they were in relationships both of which ended very, very badly, so their extremely nervous about committing to a new relationship. They have been out as part of our group a few times, and there's something there, and they can talk to each other fine.

It's just if they like each other that much, then it's time to go out without the mates - both of them have said that separately to me.

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If they're so awkward when around each other, why the hell would they want to go out on a date? You may want to disregard the old "if they can't talk at dinner" theory, but if they can't hold a conversation, why the hell would they want to have any kind of a relationship, let alone have sex?At the age of 22, why the hell would your mate want to waste his time spending time with people that make him uncomfortable?
They want to go out with each other because they really like each other. I haven't dismissed dinner because I think it's a shit idea, I've dismissed it because they've both said that it's a high pressure situation. This thread was just a suggestion for good first dates, not an analysis of a relationship.

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I can only speak from my personal experience, but if a girl is either (a) stupid, (b) boring or (c) both, then there is no way that I'd want to have anything to do with her.
You assume that the problem is the girl? No, she's lovely, beautiful, interesting and smart, so fuck right off with that. She doesn't make him uncomfortable in the least, just some people are not as confident as you apparently are.

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This whole situation confuses me.
Don't over analyse it then Freud.
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