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Originally Posted by killdozer  It's not theft of an artist work. I'm in a band releasing commercial work, In know how it operates. The theft of artists music comes from the record labels who rarely pay artists, and from the distro/stores that want to gouge ever greater profits. All at the expense of two groups. The artists and the fans. |
Bullshit.
Bands
sign contracts with labels; no-one puts a gun to their head and forces them to; it may seem that once they're successful that they "deserve" a bigger slice of the rewards, but hell, they shoulda negotiated a better deal then. Whining about it after the fact gets very little sympathy from me.
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Originally Posted by killdozer And yes, downloading is a victimless crime if you discount the criminals in the record industry. |
Um... this is just nonsense.
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Originally Posted by killdozer MP3/compressed music quality sucks. But Itunes will sell you an MP3 album for not much less than the price of an album, and if the record industry gets it's way it would have been the self same price! No physical product, no distro cost, no packaging cost. Butthe same price for less quality. THAT is a rip off. |
Maybe so. My local corner shop charges an outrageous price for milk; doesn't mean i can just take it without paying. You think (certain) music costs too much? Do without, same as any other commercially available product.
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Originally Posted by killdozer The record industry maintain that you should buy digital copy of a track for your MP3 player. Another for your car, and another for each device you own! |
iTunes tracks can be put on five devices legally.
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Originally Posted by killdozer Downloading was a solution to a problem made by the record industry and greedy people (some artists!) by a group of people who were sick of getting ripped off. |
How is it being ripped off if you
choose to buy something?
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Originally Posted by killdozer A download is not a lost sale, it's a potential fan. A potential gig goer, a potential merchandise buyer. |
That may be true in part; certainly a helluva lot of downloads happen that wouldn't have been sales. Some certainly would, pretty hard to quantify accurately I expect.
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Originally Posted by killdozer The rules of the game are changing. Changing not because of music theives, but because of the record industry's short sightedness and greed. |
Now
this I agree with. films, TV shows, music... even books and magazines could and should be easily available
legally where I live, when I want. If that were true I'd probably never steal stuff. As it is I illegally download Lost, Prison Break, BSG... I often download music before I can buy it in a shop... But I also recognise that someone else owns the rights to it and trying to
justify stealing it cos at the end of the day I'm too cheap to pay what the person who owns it wants to sell it for wouldn't enter my head. It's convenience rather than price that tends to make me steal stuff - I'm at work when a TV show is on, etc etc. Not that this is any better an excuse, but I'm kidding myself less.
The record companies are doing themselves a great deal of harm by charging more than the market value of music, and yes that's a contributing factor in people turning to "piracy"
(I hate that word) but nothing you've said makes it
okay.
