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Old 31st May 2008, 3:45pm   #15
Effigy
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Re: MusicNonStop - End Of An Era

So fundamental point is that you (killdozer) object to the way the music industry/record labels etc treats artists?
And your solution to this is to download artists material without paying for it, therefore reducing the revenue created and giving record labels a further excuse to take larger cuts of what they have sold in order to cover what they will argue to be 'fixed costs' in developing/producing/marketing and releasing artists work.
Cunning plan mate, really gonna hurt the labels and obviously not going to damage the bands in any way whatsoever.
Basically you're just trying to excuse the fact that you think you're entitled to access to something without paying for it. If you then deem it worthy by your standards, you'll lower yourself to making some sort of financial acknowledgement of the work that went into providing you with it in the first place.
So does this apply to all commercial goods (cos lets cut to the chase and admit thats what music is when its provided in a business sense) or are you selective about who and which companies you rip off?
Following your logic I'm entitled to drop into Tesco today, stuff my face with whatever food I like the look of and then decide whether or not to pay for it. I'm sure they wouldnt have an objection to that. And just cos you're doing your rip-off from in front of a keyboard, dont try to make out its any different. You may as well go into HMV and fill a bag with cd's. At least have the guts to admit you're damagaing the livelihoods of the artists you so elloquently claim to be acting in support of.
You believe that music should be available for all without big business getting in the way of it? Try busking. Maybe then you'll get the respect and financial reward you deserve without feeling abused.

So you're in a band and know the problem from the inside? Fair play, you're a step ahead of me there.
But how does it work for you? Are you signed to a label? Do you release through your own label? Or do you just give it away for free? Would you object to me downloading it, passing it round all my friends and then telling you to fuck off if you asked me to pay for it? Take it the logical conclusion of your argument that everyone who wants to hear your stuff gets it for free from the net, where does that leave you? Or are you happy to creat music in your spare time and never get any financial recovery for it? If so I'll shake you by the hand and wish you all the best, cos you're a better person thatn any other musician out there.

Personally though, so far it sounds like sour grapes from someone who's not made a million out of the industry and just wants to get his own back at the big bad boogeyman who denied him his rock n' roll lifestyle.

Fuck it though, life's too short and people are never going to agree on this subject.
Believe it or not, I hope things go well for your band and you prove me wrong.
No hard feelings for not seeing eye-to-eye, keeps life interesting.

Last edited by Effigy; 31st May 2008 at 3:53pm.
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