Clean Glasgow Campaign ‘zero tolerance enforcement teams’

[Bunnylingus]

Im so glad I dont smoke any more, hate to say it but just chucking it was force of habit almost.

[MarkMono]

As long as you chucked it into the gutter, thats what they're for.

[djtoast]

Im so glad I dont smoke any more, hate to say it but just chucking it was force of habit almost.

It does annoy me that people who otherwise wouldn't drop litter think discarding cigarette butts is fair enough. Litter isn't the biggest social ill but any time I'm abroad I realise all the more how dirty this country can be, and it's kinda of a shame.

[Zippy]

Glasgow City Council should start to realise there's more to Glasgow than the three streets which they seem to constantly want to improve whilst the rest of the city falls into a state of disrepair.

[Tommy]

I know you shouldn't drop litter but if you got chinned by these folks wouldn't you just run off? What are they gonna do, shout "STOP! LITTERBUG!"?

[Neil.]

It does annoy me that people who otherwise wouldn't drop litter think discarding cigarette butts is fair enough. Litter isn't the biggest social ill but any time I'm abroad I realise all the more how dirty this country can be, and it's kinda of a shame.

On the other hand, what are you supposed to do if your walking down the street having a fag and you get to the end nowhere near one of those binds with ash trays, which there arent that many of, put it in your pocket? Let it slowly burn down and singe your hands, more ash tray bin things, less fag buts everyone wins.

[djtoast]

On the other hand, what are you supposed to do if your walking down the street having a fag and you get to the end nowhere near one of those binds with ash trays, which there arent that many of, put it in your pocket? Let it slowly burn down and singe your hands...

I'll sound a bit cunty here but... that shouldn't really be my problem. Truthfully I suppose the best thing would be to put it out on the ground, then (once it's not smouldering) put it in your pocket, or just hold it til you do find a bin, or eat it... whatever really, but not leave it littering the ground. Same with dog owners: yes, I understand that dogs produce excrement, but it shouldn't become a problem for other people.

Meh, I'm not perfect, this just exasperates me cause someone else's decision to give themselves cancer shouldn't impinge on other people; at least with dog shit on sidewalks you can see a valid purpose somewhere (the joy of dog ownership, blah blah blah...)

[amytiger]

...highly visible uniformed enforcement officers will patrol the city's streets targeting people...

[Neil.]

Toast, Toast toast. Thats a ridiculas thing to say.

Cars do the enviroment and our respatory systems no good, and I dont drive, and go to work by train but I dont gripe about my taxes going towards road improvements, lets go a step further, shall we stop treating fat people for heart conditions and diabetes, what about people who are in drive dangerously and get in car crashes, should we as a society just leave them to die beside the road. Oh he who is a DJ and has his wages paid by binge drinking, moaning about not having to worry about people in societys un healthy lifestyle choices, how much money goes into city center policing/CCTV ect. My word, silly silly hypocracy.

Sersiouly rubbish rubbish statement, I thought you were ment to be one of the smart formers.

[Ness]

its so the city earns more money.

more fines = bigger budgets.

[LesMTS]

Give them a motorbike and a net gun.

[djtoast]

Toast, Toast toast. Thats a ridiculas thing to say.

Cars do the enviroment and our respatory systems no good, and I dont drive, and go to work by train but I dont gripe about my taxes going towards road improvements, lets go a step further, shall we stop treating fat people for heart conditions and diabetes, what about people who are in drive dangerously and get in car crashes, should we as a society just leave them to die beside the road. Oh he who is a DJ and has his wages paid by binge drinking, moaning about not having to worry about people in societys un healthy lifestyle choices, how much money goes into city center policing/CCTV ect. My word, silly silly hypocracy.

Sersiouly rubbish rubbish statement, I thought you were ment to be one of the smart formers.

All interesting debating points, but none of them make dropping litter okay.

Cars cause pollution but most people agree the trade off makes them worth it. No society bans them, to my knowledge. You could choose to be Amish if you wanna shun them I suppose.

You ever buy anything from a store that gets it deliveries via the road network - food and clothes, say? Then your "roads" argument suffers a little.

Provision of health care is just simply irrelevant. But of course a society should look after everyone, that's not worth debating, unless you plan never to grow old.

Binge drinking? Individual choice I guess. I haven't drunk alcohol for two years but I don't feel empowered to tell others not to. Do you support prohibition? I doubt it, so not sure what's supposed to be underpinning your argument here.

Hypocrisy? Nope, as I stated I'm by no means perfect but I don't drop litter, which was the issue at hand. The war in Iraq, that missing toddler, Camp X-Ray... there's all sorts of imperfections in the world, but dragging them into this debate doesn't make discarded fag butts any less unsightly

[Neil.]

The thing is toast, thats not what you said, you said,
"hat shouldn't really be my problem. Truthfully I suppose the best thing would be to put it out on the ground, then (once it's not smouldering) put it in your pocket, or just hold it til you do find a bin, or eat it... whatever really, but not leave it littering the ground. Same with dog owners: yes, I understand that dogs produce excrement, but it shouldn't become a problem for other people.
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Now, what your saying their toast, I dont do that so its not my problem. And I think your being really silly and immature, because if we take that to its logical conclusion our whole society fallls to bits, we all pay tax for things we dont directly benifit from or like, sure I buy food from things that come by road, but I pay for part of the cost of roads to be fit to carry more than just freight, like gaz guzzling 4xX to take kids on the school run, and all the traffic schemes and silly congestion that comes along with it. But i wouldn't say that anyway, and thats the point, making statements like that is SILLY.

I'm trying to be a bit sensible, here and say you cant put a fag end in a bin or its likely to cause a fire, it might look out, but any fire safety type will tell you off. So you can come out with a silly response and sound like a 12 year old, or you can think

"maybee more of those fag safe bins would mean less fag ends about"

And be a bit sensible. And they cost almost nothing.

As for the binge drinking, I never said you did, I said "it pays your wages", which i'd say is hard to argue with, I think. And theres nothing wrong with that, unless, you want to get on your high horse about how you shouldn't need to care about other unhealthy habits. Its how our society works, we all put up with other peoples habits, some we like, some we dont. And sometimes SHOCK HORROR our taxes might pay for something relating to them.

[0x21]

Yeah, lets crack down on those litter louts, they should be our first priority.

Does it not have to do with it costing £15m cleaning up the city, and if they spend £3m on this campaign with the view to drastically reducing the requirement and cost of cleaning up the city, then that'll actually give them more money to spend elsewhere (like on a new fleet of goverment "taxi's" or something.... )

[GoddamnElectric]

I don't have a problem with this. True there might be better ways to spend their budget, but at least this is a way you can actually see having some sort of positive effect.