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Make Poverty History - The Five Big Issues
Published by Barry
9th June 2005
Make Poverty History - The Five Big Issues

As everyone will by now probably be aware, this summer provides perhaps the best opportunity yet for positive action to be taken to reduce world poverty. With the G8 meeting of leaders from the world's richest countries less than a month away, we should all take a look at the main issues concerned and just how they influence unnecessary poverty.

Trade
Trade is how people get (materially) richer. By focussing on what they produce best and then exchanging it with others, people and nations get access to goods that they could otherwise never have. However, there are many barriers to trade. Rich Western nations 'protect' their industries through things such as subsidies and taxes on imports.

The classic example is the Common Agricultural Policy (CAP) of the European Union. CAP's aim was to make Europe self-sufficient in food production. It succeeded, but is no longer needed. European countries pay big subsidies to farmers (in the form of guaranteed prices) for production; thus the farmers produce more than they would in an open market because they know everything they produce will be sold. This over-production forces prices down (imagine there were ten billion iPods in your local Tesco—they would be really cheap). The artificially low prices mean 'Third World' farmers lose out as they have not been subsidised and cannot make profit. Under fair trade they would be producing the most competitively priced items in many markets but they lose out because the French Government (for example) does not want to upset its farmers (who are understandably concerned about their loss of income) by cutting subsidies.

If Western governments followed what all their economists regard as the best way to wealth (free and open trade without subsidies) then all nations could compete on a level playing field, producing what they are best at for the benefit of all. The irony is that subsidies harm the economy of the country giving them to their industries—France could access cheaper food and have more money to spend on things such as healthcare if they could reduce money paid to farmers (though this, it has to be noted, involves a certain amount of pain for the farmers).

Some estimates suggest that Western governments pay about $50 billion in aid but give about $300 billion in subsidies to their farmers.


Debt
The debt story goes like this:
1. Rich countries lent money to poor countries for them to invest to make themselves richer.
2. Corrupt and bad governments of poor countries did not spend the money very well. They (sometimes understandably) bought things like guns to try and hold onto power rather than investing in infrastructure (roads, schools, hospitals etc).
3. The poor countries stayed poor.
4. The rich countries asked for the loans to be paid back.
5. The poor countries pay large parts of what little money they have to the rich countries—you don't want to default on a loan to a rich powerful country if you want good weapons to keep you in power.

Simple solution: write off the debts and the poor countries will have more money to spend on infrastructure and make themselves richer.

Problems:
  • If banks were to write off debts because people are a bit hard up then the whole system could collapse: who would give a loan if it was unlikely to be paid back? Rich countries need guarantees that it won't happen again if they cancel debt—remember, if the international financial system collapses (as opposed to being reformed) then there will be a whole lot more of us living in poverty.
  • What if the poor countries' governments then spend the money on guns again?
Well, this is where it gets complicated, and systems are suggested for cancellation of debt in return for democratic reforms. These are a good idea—we want to help the people who are in poverty, not their corrupt leaders.


Aid
If we give more money to poor people to spend on things that make them less poor, then they will be less poor and they will be able to help their children and future generations look after themselves. Thus we won't have to give them so much money in the future, and they will have more money to spend on things like whisky and golf so we will get more money. Everyone wins.

So as long as money is spent on long term projects (building schools, paying teachers, building hospitals, paying doctors, ensuring good sanitation and clean water, building roads etc) as well as short term projects (giving people food so they don't die) then this helps. Hence the call for 'more and better' aid should be listened to. Aid, to be effective, does not have to cost huge amounts to rich countries. The Labour government has pledged to increase Aid to 0.7% of national income. If all Western governments did the same it would make a huge difference.


HIV/Aids
HIV/Aids is killing thousands of people in Africa every day. It goes without saying that it is hard for a country to get richer if a large part of its economically active population is sick, dying or dead (this severely curtails your ability to contribute to the economy). Education is crucial to stop the spread of the disease which is often not talked about in Africa because of the stigma. The West can help by paying for education programmes and funding more teachers and nurses.

Drugs are available to treat sufferers, but they are costly, because the companies who patented them keep prices high to recoup their research and development costs. Obviously we don't want drug companies to stop researching treatments for the worst illnesses, so a system where (perhaps) governments help to fund research needs to be found. Research is costly and this makes drugs costly so poor countries cannot afford them. Drugs exist which can save thousands (if not millions) of lives now. Either the companies need to provide the drugs at much lower prices or Western governments need to buy the drugs to give to the Third World. Again it is not as simple a problem as it first appears, but a system where the world's sickest get drugs that can now be produced cheaply surely should not be beyond us.


Corruption
This may come as a shock but some governments are only interested in holding onto power and don't really care about the people in their country. In the West this is fine as they eventually get found out and voted out (they do, don't they?!). If there is no democratic means of doing this then violence usually occurs. As an example imagine if the West had given aid to Iraq with Saddam in charge. Whatever your views on what has happened in Iraq over the last few years, it is fair to say that a lot of money was spent by Saddam's 'regime' on things such as fancy palaces and keeping the family happy. This money might have been spent on things like hospitals in a democracy. Thus Western governments are right to try and pressure (or maybe encourage is a better word) Third World countries to become democracies. More democracy nearly always coincides with less poverty. It is another reason why it is sometimes good that help given to poor countries should come with strings attached. This is a controversial, complicated minefield. Does poverty cause corruption or vice versa? Measures to reduce one usually reduce the other.


Finally
It may make the Make Poverty History campaign less fashionable but its aims (and most of its suggested means for reaching these ends) are supported by the people at the top of the British Government. Gordon Brown has put forward proposals for big increases in aid, for writing off debts and for making trade rules fairer. What has to be hoped for is that Tony Blair, having put poverty and climate change at the top of the agenda for this summer's G8 meeting, can persuade the leaders of the world's richest countries to agree to Gordon Brown's proposals. He is more likely to succeed with the force of public opinion behind him and pressuring him and other leaders.



Make Poverty History website: http://www.makepovertyhistory.org/

MPH is the UK-based campaign of the Global Call to Action Against Poverty alliance: to find out more in other countries visit http://www.whiteband.org/
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Nice article man, although i gotta argue with this bit

"If Western governments followed what all their economists regard as the best way to wealth (free and open trade without subsidies) then all nations could compete on a level playing field, producing what they are best at for the benefit of all."

I think not only should the rich countries be forced to stop subsidies, but poor countries should be allowed to be protectionist for a bit. The rich countries all got that way because of protectionist policies, and the thing is it wouldn't be a level playing field of trade was completely free - it would be like me playing poker against Richard Branson, there needs to be measures in place to stop the strong crushing the weak.
Nice article here by George Monbiot http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/st...495676,00.html
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That was well worth the read and largely unbias approach to the whole situation. It's definitely not the easiest thing in the world were asking for and if we do cancel dept I'd want some rules about it in place to ensure the money saved was going to the right places and not into "Palace building".
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I think not only should the rich countries be forced to stop subsidies, but poor countries should be allowed to be protectionist for a bit.
My heart kinda leans that way but I'm just wary of messing up the whole system kinda thing.
Is there a danger of making the economies in the poorest countries reliant on such protectionism rather than standing on their own merits? Would such stuff end up meaning that they would be shooting each other in the foot competeing with one another?
Country X pays $x subsidy, so Country Y pays $x+2 to give them the edge internationally, Country X up's their subsidy and so on?
I don't really know as getting that involved in economics stuff baffles me.

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That was well worth the read and largely unbias approach to the whole situation. It's definitely not the easiest thing in the world were asking for and if we do cancel dept I'd want some rules about it in place to ensure the money saved was going to the right places and not into "Palace building".
you always worry so much that folk will spend money on palaces, don't be so feart - I'm sure yours will still be the biggest and shineyest when finished!

ButI do like that I read the article and feel it is giving a cautious or balanced view but I still think that yeah, all good points to keep in mind but not nearly enough to worry about for George Bush (or anyone else) to justify being an idiot and dinghying the proposals.

Still confident that a good (& real) outcome is very much possible this summer
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Great article.

I'll be putting my sister onto it when she gets home.
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Re: Column: MPH - The Five Big Issues

Most of this article was fantastic and it's really great that you're trying to make us all more aware. However:

"Whatever your views on what has happened in Iraq over the last few years, it is fair to say that a lot of money was spent by Saddam's 'regime' on things such as fancy palaces and keeping the family happy. This money might have been spent on things like hospitals in a democracy. Thus Western governments are right to try and pressure (or maybe encourage is a better word) Third World countries to become democracies."

Well, personally, although there is a good point in that paragraph, I think it is completely lost under the rubble of another hugely undeveloped point, barely backed up by a sparse amount of evidence. "Encourage" may be a much better word.... If it was the state of the world. I don't think that "pressure" really covers what happened either. Now maybe this would have been a fantastic point with a different example... But Iraq? Anyone who has any sense knows that George Bush just wanted to be a big boy with his pretty little gun, a spoiled child in 'need' of more oil so that he can make even more money and, to quote another point (not in the above paragraph) heighten the corrupt opinion that he forces upon all of us by being President of the United States.

I'm not denying that Saddam Hussein was a fully-fledged corrupt dictator and don't misinterpret me; I'm not, by any means, sticking up for him, but I certainly don't believe that the Western governments were "right to pressure" this third world country in the way that they did.

Also, this article starts with "This may come as a shock but some governments are only interested in holding onto power and don't really care about the people in their country." I really, really hope that was supposed to be sarcastic...

Again, really great that you're trying to make everybody aware and all in all I loved this article. But seriously... Bad, bad example of the Western government doing the 'right thing'.
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Great article.

I'll be putting my sister onto it when she gets home.
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Bad, bad example of the Western government doing the 'right thing'.
yes indeed, I agree a bad example of Western Govts doing the right thing,
but the intent here was only to use Iraq as an example of a government/regime or a country that would have more than likely squandered any aid or debt relief assistance given.

- Saddam's Iraq was used as an obvious state where the corruption at the top exacerbated the poverty of many of it's poorest folk and show that "Western governments are right to try and (encourage) Third World countries to become democracies" rather than just throw money at suspect powers with no outlook on whether it will benefit those it is meant to help.

But aye, not really meant to be read as Iraq being a good example of Western influence to help the impoverished!
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"But aye, not really meant to be read as Iraq being a good example of Western influence to help the impoverished!"


fair enough, then.
did think the rest of the article was really good.
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Make Poverty History and Live 8 in danger of becoming the first 'embedded protest'?

Quite a good article here in the Guardian although I think it lacks a bit of depth.
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I hate the way they the word "hijacking" is used.
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Yeah, it annoys me that various groups and people seem to want to claim ownership of the protests etc. Should remember they are all on the same side.
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