Sick To Death of pop/boyband metal

[Prophet]

Jesus i cant hack all this fake so called metal anymore linkinpark papa roach what a ****ing joke. I am ashamed to be associated with the so called "metal scene" The same ****ers who slated me about liking metal and not ****ing oasis now trying to tell me things about my favorite bands.... and the final nail in the coffin comes courtesy of HMV who saw fit to put dimmu borgir cradle of filth and fear factory in the Nu metal section damn their eyes. Now the cathouse one year ago was a very different place i remember wednesdays and thursdays playing slayer, sepultura and when you asked for metallica you got somethin other than enter sandman just a thought. and oh yeah **** GEORGE BUSH hes gonna kill us all the *******.

[Rebus]

everyone has different tastes.
I for one hate "motorbike metal" but you don't find me cursing when its played.

[Pete!]

WHAT THE **** IS WRONG WITH LINKIN PARK?????
THEY RULE!

[TragicHero]

Agreed, Linkin Park's album is good except some of their songs are very similar sounding.
They're not ever gonna be legends like black sabbath, metallica, iron maiden, etc. but they're definately pretty good.

I also happen to think papa roach are great. Have you even heard their record? I bet you haven't!
Songs like Revenge, Binge and Tightrope are very good.

Calling these bands pop is fair enough because they are popULAR but they aren't pop-like - hey, its not their fault that they became famous and anyway, if you were in a band and had a choice between selling 200,000 records and 2,000,000 records you would choose 2 million.

Record sales:
Chocolate star fish -> in excess of 3m
Infest :o -> 3m
Hybrid theory -> 1.8m
The Sickness -> 1.2m

These bands write their own lyrics AND music, I've checked up so I know this, don't argue with me on this one. I didn't like chocolate starfish all that much but I like those other albums. Calling those bands "Boybands" is unfair, listen to some more of their stuff before you judge them and just coz' you dont like it doesn't necisarily make it ST.

Antony

[Prophet]

Here I have listened to all these bands albums the reason im calling them pop isnt because their popular its because they write music to make money primarily linkin park for a start removed all the guitar solos from their songs (see last months issue of metal hammer) so that they would be played more which as a lead guitarist myself i find disgusting. the reason these bands sell so many records isnt generally to do with their quality of music but the fashion image they convey FASHION SELLS so i still say **** linkin park and papa roach and ive heard all their songs and there all SHITE

[TragicHero]

<<Here I have listened to all these bands albums the reason im calling them pop isnt because their popular its because they write music to make money primarily >>

First I must disagree here. Papa roach have been touring for 6+ years with little sucess until this year when they exploded. Linkin Park, I'm not sure one way or another but I like their music. As for Limp Bizkit, I dont know... burke would probably be able to contradict you and I'm pretty sure disturbed dont just make music for money

<< linkin park for a start removed all the guitar solos from their songs (see last months issue of metal hammer) so that they would be played more which as a lead guitarist myself i find disgusting. >>

I never knew this here but I habve to agree, thats pretty disgusting! Maybe why their record is so short!

<<the reason these bands sell so many records isnt generally to do with their quality of music but the fashion image they convey FASHION SELLS >>

I would say its not their fault they have become fassionable.

<<so i still say **** linkin park and papa roach and ive heard all their songs and there all SHITE >>

Oh well you are entitled to your own opinion but i beg to differ...

oh yeah, I added more popular metal bands:

Limp Bizkit; Over 3m
Papa Roach; 3m
Linkin Park; 1.8m
Slipknot; 1.5m
Disturbed; 1.2m
Deftones; 1m
Mudvayne; 0.5m

[boybandkillaz]

well thank god someone finally said it. LINKIN PARK are the biggist load of piss i have ever heard!!!
Don't even get me started on papa roach i mean who was the tit that said they were metal
Its about time metal got back to its roots with bands like metallica, slayer,etc
and if you like these fake ass metal bands then you to are a fake and you should go back to your piss music and stop messing about trying to "look metal" it makes me ****ing sick!!
now piss off back to the galleries

[boybandkillaz]

come on you nu metal tarts lets hear from you so i can cap your bitch ass

remember keep it real
i'am comin ta gettcha

[Prophet]

Cool someone is keeping it hardcore **** yeah. ok skippy your list of "popular metal bands" firswtly please realise that my argument against these sell out trendy bands is based on what happens in glasgow rather than other places obvviously trends set here are followed by most of the people here just look at the galleries of modern art if you can bear to. Do you know that METALLICA are the second bigest selling artists in the world ever next to garth brooks. Their debut album kill em all remains a blistering display of raw talent they simply didnt have all the cheesy effects and expensive mixing desks and certainly didnt use huge sampled sections like linkin park because they are talented the reason that you dont see shitloads of trendys liking them is because they dont have a trendy modern image that sheep can follow and its the same with all the older bands. NU metal ****ing sucks metal used to be all about unity and the music but now its not and that last statement about unity may seem contradictory seeing as im slating people but blame nu metal for that to

[Rebus]

gumbies (caught in a time loop) vs. kids (thick)...
Who gives a shit?
I listen to what I want regardless of what you all think.

[TragicHero]

Firstly:
<<Its about time metal got back to its roots with bands like metallica, slayer,etc
and if you like these fake ass metal bands then you to are a fake and you should go back to your piss music and stop messing about trying to "look metal" it makes >>

You've no right to call me fake coz' its likely that I've been into metal music for longer then you even though I'm younger.
Just because a band becomes popular doesn't automatically make them crap, thats bullshit, I think - without realising it - its built into your brain that popular music must be shit and so when these bands become popular you automatically disslike them, making you the fake.
Take Limp Bizkit for exaple. At Christmas time It seemed to be the coolest thing in the world to like them... now all of a sudden they r popular and anyone who says they like them is a "Saddo"or something.
<<Cool someone is keeping it hardcore **** yeah. ok skippy your list of "popular metal bands" firswtly please realise that my argument against these sell out trendy bands is based on what happens in glasgow rather than other places obvviously trends set here are followed by most of the people here just look at the galleries of modern art if you can bear to. Do you know that METALLICA are the second bigest selling artists in the world ever next to garth brooks. Their debut album kill em all remains a blistering display of raw talent they simply didnt have all the cheesy effects and expensive mixing desks and certainly didnt use huge sampled sections like linkin park because they are talented the reason that you dont see shitloads of trendys liking them is because they dont have a trendy modern image that sheep can follow and its the same with all the older bands. NU metal ****ing sucks metal used to be all about unity and the music but now its not and that last statement about unity may seem contradictory seeing as im slating people but blame nu metal for that to >>

Ok, so out of everyone who has posted here I respect your differing opinion most because you actually make points rather then just swearing and saying the stuff you dont like is crap, still, I think my taste in music is pretty good and Its also varied, not all metal and rock, coz I noticed a lot of people here have the attitude that if its not heavy or alternative its shit - thats bullshit!
Some not-so alternative bands I like are; Queen, Tears for Fears and Coldplay... the are all very, very good. And dont think I'm not also into the old-school coz ive been into rock and metal since i was like 6 (brothers influence) I like; Black Sabbath, Rage against the machine, Motley Crew and also Metallica for example.

I''ll post again later people.


Antony

[Ghostsuit]

Do you know that METALLICA are the second biggest selling artists in the world ever next to garth brooks. Their debut album kill em all remains a blistering display of raw talent they simply didnt have all the cheesy effects and expensive mixing desks and certainly didnt use huge sampled sections like linkin park because they are talented

I'd love to know where you get the Second biggest selling artist in the world info since if you check there site you'll find they only recon they are the 7th Biggest selling artist and I think they would boast about if they were 2nd. I'm sure Madonna will be ahead of them

So onto the cheesy effects....Do we still use oil lamps to light the streets? No why because we have light bulbs now. Why should Linkin Park not use mixing desks and effects they are available now you know. Times change Prophet and unfortunately/fortunately Linkin Park were not around when Metallica started or maybe they would have developed a different style. I'm not a great fan of Linkin Park (not listened to enought stuff) however I've been into Metallica since they started and I like them however I also appreciate other styles of music and there was a point where METALLICA were so bloody trendy it made you sick (The Black Album). Now that they are no longer the centre of attention it seems it's cool to like them as apposes to these Nu-metal bands well I say good on the nu-metal bands I hope they become giant slayers and maybe one of them will become as big as metallica.

As for Unity and the music tell that to Megadeth and Metallica they used to be at each others throats when ever they got the chance.

[TragicHero]

I am in agreement with Mr. Maul lightbulb theory.

You see, there is absolutly no point in re-inventing the wheel. Nobody wants the same stuff over and over again so its time to look at new methods

and btw, my figures were not of total record sales, they were the sales they made FROM ONE ALBUM

Btw, if u were wondering (and you probably weren't) other old school bands I like are Chillies, Guns n, and Aerosmith.

[Ron The Don]

It is of my opinion that if music doesn't develop and evolve it would be depressingly boring and stale. Honestly, some people are just too narrow minded to accept change.

I bought Kill 'Em All, via Mail Order, from America practically as soon as it was released. (How many people can say that?) Just because nowadays I listen to newer stuff doesn't make it a bad album. I think the rawness of Kill Em All is outstanding, but the expertly processed guitars of Linkin Park and co sound really outstanding too.

As for these guitar solos being cut out............if they did do this then good on them. Rock music isn't all about the guitar solo. Some songs need them, I grant you, but not every single song. They really bore me, to be honest.

Now, commercialism and music......aren't they really hand in hand? Don't people all dream, at one point, of playing in a "POPULAR" band and being supremely rich? If a band's music sells, then that's great. Good luck to 'em.

I know it's hard to accept that the bands you like become popular and they don't seem to be "your band" anymore, but I honestly think that people should just accept and be pleased for them. Look at the Chili Peppers, I bought every album as and when it was released then WHAMMO!! Blood...Sugar...Sex...Majik was released and lo and behold....UK commercial success! Was I envious? Angry? Nah! I was glad people had finally got the message.

To sum up, I'm glad that people are actually starting to buy records of real bands where the guys write the songs, play the instruments and rock out live. Boy bands and girl bands are fine too, but I prefer "honest" musicianship.

Ron Obb

P.S. If you don't like certain bands then don't listen to them don't just go putting them down cos you're not interested. Grow up!

[Prophet]

First of all i appreciate your balanced arguments that you all placed after my last post now i know im not just dealing with trendy little kids. I dont know how you guys grew up but i had a ****ing hard time for liking the music i listened to growing up. For this reason it sickens me that metal is so trendy and i totally agreee with the person who said you shouldnt slate a band when they become popular cos it doesnt feel like your band anymore this is totally true but when the same cockheads who used to make your life soo shit are wearing all these t shirts etc it ****s with your head im sure you understand where my anger comes from cheers. ps i have to disagreee with the solo statement if linkin park hadnt written solos full stop then fine but it was the fact that they took them out "to be more radio friendly" is wrong it wasnt a case of whether they needed them or not they just wanted to sell more records which is wrong music isnt about that how much do you think mozart and beethoven made not very much just a thought