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View Poll Results: Should it continue?
Yes, I believe it should continue. 12 13.48%
Naw, its shit and full of bigots. 72 80.90%
Undecided. 3 3.37%
The orange what now????? 2 2.25%
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Old 11th July 2007, 7:45am   #316
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Old 11th July 2007, 7:50am   #317
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There's a difference between being a Freemason and being an Orangeman.

Surely you know this Westy?
I was just thinking that myself
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Old 11th July 2007, 11:17am   #318
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Re: The Orange Walk

Orangeman have lodges of their own. And thats a something after many years of Orangeman & Freemasonary not getting on when the OO started out.

They all stem from the same views of being a good man, upholding the law of your country, etc. They work together with charity work if i'm not mistaken.
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Old 11th July 2007, 11:29am   #319
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Re: The Orange Walk

I could be a Freemason but I couldn't be an Orangeman - Freemason's have no links to religion and they aren't involved in orange marches.
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Old 11th July 2007, 11:39am   #320
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Re: The Orange Walk

The orange marches are totally retarded. What other group of people actually celebrate a battle in such a way? Other war related days of note are commemorated in a respectful way and used as a time to reflect on those who were lost, on the 12th all you get are a bunch of arseholes celebrating the fact that hundreds of years ago a lot of people died. Its as daft as marching for the Irish Confederate Wars or the Irish Rebellion.

Nobody benefits in any way at all from the 12th.
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Old 11th July 2007, 11:42am   #321
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Re: The Orange Walk

having been raised in ireland.... i pretty much cant stand it but i think its more an inherited dislike than a personal one. i dont really give a fuck as long as it doesnt disrupt the shit that im doing or gets violent (as is what usually happend in ireland) cant say that since ive moved over here its bothered me that much
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I dont think thats entirely true. My grandad used to be in the masons and he got me to help him by typing out some of those crazy rituals they do, in a big font for him to read more easily. Those definitely seem to based in religion. Unless what you meant was that they arent openly linked to any particular church? Ayway, from my experience, the freemasons as a whole have no major beef with catholics, unlike Orange Lodges.

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Gonnae stop saying "cheers" at the end of your posts, you know it makes sense
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I dont think thats entirely true. My grandad used to be in the masons and he got me to help him by typing out some of those crazy rituals they do, in a big font for him to read more easily. Those definitely seem to based in religion. Unless what you meant was that they arent openly linked to any particular church? Ayway, from my experience, the freemasons as a whole have no major beef with catholics, unlike Orange Lodges.

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What I meant was that you could be a catholic, muslim, sikh, protestant etc and be a Freemason.
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Prof. Tom Devine stated in one of his essays that there is a significant overlap in membership between the masonic lodge and orange lodge in Scotland. Read into that what you will. It's like folk here going to the Cathouse: many do, but not everyone who uses AN goes, and not everyone who goes uses AN.
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What I meant was that you could be a catholic, muslim, sikh, protestant etc and be a Freemason.
But not an athiest?

Aye?

I'm, baffled.
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But not an athiest?

Aye?

I'm, baffled.
I dunno about being an athiest, I wouldn't imagine so but I'm not Mr Freemason so don't quote me on it.
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But not an athiest?

Aye?

I'm, baffled.
From memory you have to recognise the divine creator (or whatever they call it) and they openly accept that you could be of any religion that would allow this and be in the freemasons. If you dont believe in a god then your not supposed to be let in.
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Aye i was sure i'd heard that.

Tam, you will forever be Tam Freemason to me.
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