The Orange Walk - Page 4

Awright · 8th July 2007, 8:21pm

I love the titles everybody in the Lodge gives themselves.

"Grand Master" Haha. Yas.

*packs away sash and big drum*

Stew · 8th July 2007, 8:28pm

Hmm.. Grand Master?

Bit of a link between titles in the Orange Order and the KKK? :-|

nevali · 8th July 2007, 8:34pm

Same terms used in Freemasonry, for that matter.

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Originally Posted by Foxglove

I am not sure what you are saying with the second. Is it that you didn't like him being shown a lot of people marching? Or that he was told nothing about why they were? Or was he being told the beliefs of the marchers and told that what they believe in is right? As a spectacle I am sure it must be quite something for a young child to see such a march, but that does not mean the child is being told to believe in what the marching is for. I am typing this not knowing the full facts though so I apologise if I am misunderstanding this.

He won't have had anything explained (I could be wrong about this, but I'd be hugely surprised to be). All “look at the people marching”. No context, no nothing. No explanation was to why they're marching, what their reasoning is (rightly or wrongly). Nothing. Just another father and son to bolster the egos of the Orange Order, who seem to have this borderline notion that they'd actually be doing the public a disservice if they didn't march—not that they say this explicitly, mind, but they don't say a lot explicitly.

**djtoast** · 8th July 2007, 8:58pm

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Originally Posted by Historic Bongo

watched the walks in cambuslang and rutherglen in the mornings

didnt have the energy to goto the big one in hamilton or the one in blantyre after

but I thoroughly enjoyed them anyway

What's to enjoy?

Were you celebrating the reformation and the adoption of the vernacular, the belief in the symbolism of the eucharist, and so on?

Or perhaps you're not a practising religious person, and it was the music you enjoyed. Though I somehow doubt you own the complete works of John Philip Sousa.

Was it just that you fit in with the description other people have given in this thread of people who go to watch them, and like being in the company of bigotted neds?

¡Punk! · 8th July 2007, 9:04pm

Must admit. I do fucking love the tunes. All that drum and flute sounds the business to my ears.

**djtoast** · 8th July 2007, 9:09pm

I like marching band music too, I was in a drum corps for years. But I don't feel the need to noise up catholics when I play it.

Jaemi · 8th July 2007, 9:10pm

Orange walks are there to create noise and rub it in people faces.

Jody · 8th July 2007, 9:13pm

Orange walks don't bother me as much as the amount of threads on this forum about them.

Jaemi · 8th July 2007, 9:18pm

Bongo, what do you enjoy about the Orange walk so much?

UncleDave · 8th July 2007, 9:19pm

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Originally Posted by Zero

Don't care about the cause in the slightest, but I support anyone's right to march peacefully.

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Originally Posted by ¡Punk!

I'm kinda of the opinion that a peaceful march can never really be a bad thing

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Originally Posted by karbon14

a peaceful march for one reason or another yes.

I dunno if you guys live in a different town from me, but in Glasgow orange walks of any real size are NEVER peaceful. You are absolutely 100% guaranteed that at least one, and probably a lot more than one, person is going to be involved in violence, and much as I hate stereotyping every time I see it, its a buckie bottle to the napper.

You can cry all you want about that being idiots who follow the march like bleating sheep rather than the march organisers themselves, but the simple, undeniable fact is that the marches cause violence. Some anti-globalist marches have been cancelled or blocked because of fears of violence: why are Orange Walks apparently exempt from this?

Cheers!

¡Punk! · 8th July 2007, 9:26pm

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Originally Posted by djtoast

I like marching band music too, I was in a drum corps for years. But I don't feel the need to noise up catholics when I play it.

I feel the need to noise up all christians when I play it

Jody · 8th July 2007, 9:27pm

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Originally Posted by UncleDave

and much as I hate stereotyping every time I see it, its a buckie bottle to the napper.

Well done on the sterotyping anyway. Buckfast has a negative image but it's not just rangers thugs on the dole that drink it.

Plus I dont't think there is ever been violence involved at any I have seen/attended.

UncleDave · 8th July 2007, 9:57pm

[quote=Jody;3072613]Well done on the sterotyping anyway.[quote]

Thanks, I thought it was quite well done. It's an art form.

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Buckfast has a negative image but it's not just rangers thugs on the dole that drink it.

Indeed. However, its always the bottle that I see lying on the ground next to the person whose head has just been busted open by someone at or near an orange walk. Stereotype or not, its a fact.

Cheers!

endless psych · 8th July 2007, 10:05pm

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Originally Posted by crazydiamond85

but to be fair this sort of sectarian bollox spreads like a disease
the sooner alex salmond actually does something about it the better

Initially I thought "that would be political suicide" then I thought about it a bit more - the vast majority (if in fact not all of those involved in Orange walks) will probably hold pro-Union views thus Salmond (being on an independence ticket and all) could probably sort it so they didn't have to march (assuming he has any direct influence over the appropriate bye-laws or legislation of course) in public. (But for the sake of fairness were allowed to march on private or public ground in one location (aye a park or the like) to "maintain their traditions". He could do this and probably gain more support then he looses...

Jody · 8th July 2007, 10:06pm

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Originally Posted by UncleDave

Indeed. However, its always the bottle that I see lying on the ground next to the person whose head has just been busted open by someone at or near an orange walk. Stereotype or not, its a fact.

Cheers!

Thats not a fact, thats your opinion.