Lesbian couples' sperm donor forced to pay child support.

[Westy]

[¡Punk!]

Originally Posted by endless psych

Unless the other mum buggers off free of any legal responsibility for their regretfully spawned brat...

Well in that case I'd just take the baby off her. Fuck it. If I'm the bastard paying for it I may as well be the one to laugh at it when I feed it lemons.

[JennyPiccolo]

Originally Posted by ¡Punk!

Don't worry mate it aint an Olympic sport.

I was discussing this with a couple of lesbians I know a while back where I offered my services in such an event if they bought the turkey baster. In the unlikely event that they were going out, wanted a kid and I done the deed and then, a few years later, this came up I'm sure we could find a way to get around all this pish. For instance whatever the CSA is taking out my account the "other mum" could just put back in. A bit of common sense and the ability to leech the system at will would make this a non-story.

I sorta see your point, but i can't imagine having a baby for a gay friend and not wanting anything to do with it. I think that's just a biological difference between men and women though.

[endless psych]

Originally Posted by JennyPiccolo

I think that's just a biological difference between men and women though.

Poppycock I say, poppycock.

[JennyPiccolo]

naw, you can 'donate' sperm, you can't donate your body. It just the physical thing.

[endless psych]

Originally Posted by JennyPiccolo

naw, you can 'donate' sperm, you can't donate your body. It just the physical thing.

Surrogacy?

I'm fairly sure you can donate ovums should you choose to.

[JennyPiccolo]

Fair enough the donation of ovum, you'd never see the child or who ended up with it.

But i was talking about having gay friends' babies. Fuck knows why, it wasn't really on topic

[endless psych]

Originally Posted by JennyPiccolo

Fair enough the donation of ovum, you'd never see the child or who ended up with it.

I think there are enough deviant cases to suggest that a maternal bond formed by the physical nature of a pregnancy may not be a biological absolute. Post natal depression is perhaps a dodgy example to use (given its seen as a biological deviant case itself) but I think that its just a socialised assumption that mothers automatically want something to do with their children. Abortion and adoption could illustrate this, abortion perhaps not so much because I suspect part of the rationale behind going ahead with one would be that its just a bundle of cells up to a certain point and not a child. But adoption is an interesting one - women "giving up" children are seen as "giving them up" (holy circular arguements batflange - I should have put this better). For example TV dramas where woman gives up baby without some agonizing are few and far between. This could either be a reflection of real life, not to sure on that one, or a reinforcement of the social stereotype that we reckon should occur.

But i was talking about having gay friends' babies. Fuck knows why, it wasn't really on topic

I think its in the general area of the topic at the least

[hotblonde]

Originally Posted by endless psych

Surrogacy?

I'm fairly sure you can donate ovums should you choose to.

Donating ova is a surgically invasive procedure, so not quite the same as sperm donation in terms is supply and ease of extraction.

If a donation is faceless, regardless of sperm or ovum then there is more likely less chance of a parental input from birth or a want for parental input from birth, rather. If either donation is to a friend or someone known to the donor, human curiosity, even when excluding kinship and changing sociology processes, in all likeliness has a higher chance of kicking in.

[endless psych]

Originally Posted by hotblonde

If a donation is faceless, regardless of sperm or ovum then there is more likely less chance of a parental input from birth or a want for parental input from birth, rather.

I wouldn't disagree.

If either donation is to a friend or someone known to the donor, human curiosity, even when excluding kinship and changing sociology processes, in all likeliness has a higher chance of kicking in.

I assume by human curiosity you mean the kind of curiosity tht extends past the "oh I'll have a look at that" or "just see what thats all about" or beyond the curiosity surrounding a new born baby for those related or ther peers of the parents? It not then the statement seems fairly 'empty' in context if so then what motivates the curiosity? A rose by any other name...

[LesMTS]

Originally Posted by hotblonde

Donating ova is a surgically invasive procedure, so not quite the same as sperm donation in terms is supply and ease of extraction.

Imagine humans reproduced like fish.
It'd be hilarious.

[triggerhappy]

Originally Posted by LesMTS

Imagine humans reproduced like fish.
It'd be hilarious.

Thanks Les, now I'm imagining little piles of sperm dotted around Sauchiehall Street on a Saturday night

[LesMTS]

Originally Posted by triggerhappy

Thanks Les, now I'm imagining little piles of sperm dotted around Sauchiehall Street on a Saturday night

It'd be little piles of ova. Guys would be going around fighting eachother for the chance to wank off onto them.

[Charlicat]

I'm pretty certain that does happen on Sauchihall St on a Saturday night.

[triggerhappy]

Originally Posted by LesMTS

It'd be little piles of ova. Guys would be going around fighting eachother for the chance to wank off onto them.

I stand corrected. Not quite as up with my fish reproduction knowledge as I thought.

Originally Posted by Charlicat

I'm pretty certain that does happen on Sauchihall St on a Saturday night.

True.