we're all doomed...

[Awright]

Yes... milk is Mother Nature's "perfect food" ...for a calf... until it is weaned.

Everything you know about cow's milk and dairy is probably part of a Dairy industry MYTH.

Cow's milk is an unhealthy fluid from diseased animals that contains a wide range of dangerous and disease-causing substances that have a cumulative negative effect on all who consume it.

MILK'S BASIC CONTENTS

*ALL* cow's milk (regular and 'organic') has 59 active hormones, scores of allergens, fat and cholesterol.

Most cow's milk has measurable quantities of herbicides, pesticides, dioxins (up to 200 times the safe levels), up to 52 powerful antibiotics (perhaps 53, with LS-50), blood, pus, feces, bacteria and viruses. (Cow's milk can have traces of anything the cow ate... including such things as radioactive fallout from nuke testing ... (the 50's strontium-90 problem).

CANCER FUEL

Of those 59 hormones one is a powerful GROWTH hormone called Insulin- like Growth Factor ONE (IGF-1). By a freak of nature it is identical in cows and humans. Consider this hormone to be a "fuel cell" for any cancer... (the medical world says IGF-1 is a key factor in the rapid growth and proliferation of breast, prostate and colon cancers, and we suspect that most likely it will be found to promote ALL cancers).

IGF-1 is a normal part of ALL milk... the newborn is SUPPOSED to grow quickly! What makes the 50% of obese American consumers think they need MORE growth? Consumers don't think anything about it because they do not have a clue to the problem... nor do most of our doctors.

(See http://www.notmilk.com/igf1time.txt for a time line)

QUANTITY

Each bite of hard cheese has TEN TIMES whatever was in that sip of milk... because it takes ten pounds of milk to make one pound of cheese. Each bite of ice cream has 12 times ... and every swipe of butter 21 times whatever is contained in the fat molecules in a sip of milk.

MONSANTO AND rbGH (Posilac)

Monsanto Chemical Co., maker of fine poisons such as DDT, agent orange, Roundup and more... spent around half a billion dollars inventing a shot to inject into cows... to force a cow to produce MORE milk (for an already glutted taxpayer subsidized market).

Unfortunately, they created *FIVE* errors in their Frankenstein Posilac (rbGH) shot that direly affected all test animals... but that important report (Richard, Odaglia & Deslex, 1989) has been hidden from everyone under Clinton's Trade Secrets act. The Canadians read enough of this report (before it was stolen) to reject rbGH for their country.

Monsanto's Posilac creates additional IGF-1 in milk: up to 80% more.

The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) insists that IGF-1 is destroyed in the stomach. If that were true, the FDA has proven that breast feeding cannot work. Common sense says their "finding" is ridiculous because this growth factor DOES make the baby calf grow (rapidly, as mother natured intended). Visit the Dairy Education Board at http://www.notmilk.com/deb/100399.html to review a DAIRY study that confirms what the FDA has lied about this for years.

IGF-1 INCREASES

This study involved two groups. One group consuming 12 ounces of milk a day and the other consuming the USDA recommended allowance of 24 ounces (three cups). This report notes that the participants consuming 12 ounces more milk per day... HAD A 10% RISE IN IGF-1 IN THEIR BLOOD SERUM! Now, consider that PER DAY, from ALL sources, the typical milk/dairy consumer ingests approximately 39% of daily diet from dairy... and that 10% increase becomes the "tip of the iceberg". We have NO idea of the non-dairy versus full-dairy difference but considering cancer rates... it has to be significant.

FAT

Whole milk 49% of the calories are from fat.
"2%" milk 35% of the calories are from fat.
Cheddar cheese 74% of the calories are from fat.
Butter 100% of the calories are from fat.

Most folks suspect that butter is all fat. Most folks have no concept of the just how much fat is in the rest of milk and dairy. Perhaps the 54% of Americans who are obese need to comprehend that milk, ice cream, cheeses, yogurts, and all the OTHER products that use milk derivatives (casein, whey, lactose, colostrum) are most likely a significant cause for their weight and health problem.

CALCIUM

Calcium? Where do the COWS get calcium for their big bones? Yes... from plants! The calcium they consume from plants has a large amount of magnesium... necessary for the body to absorb and USE the calcium.

The calcium in cow's milk is basically useless because it has insufficient magnesium content (those nations with the highest amount of milk/dairy consumption also have the highest rates of osteoporosis. Proof? How about a controlled study of 78,000 nurses over a period of 12 years?

Milk is gonna kill every cunt but. Fucking cows milk!

[karbon14]

Originally Posted by Westy

Milk is gonna kill every cunt but. Fucking cows milk!

pfft, not nearly as bad as dihydrogenmonoxide THATS FOR FUCKING SURE

[Awright]

If the two got mixed, it would be the end of us all.

[endless psych]

See what the real actual danger is, sitting drinking and falling off your chair thats what.

[LesMTS]

Originally Posted by psychodubmeiste

how else can you research something aside from reading, talking, searching and watching? Spying?

How many and what (if you could cite a bunch, that would be great) sources have you researched that are sceptical or critical of your and this documentary's hypothesis?

[Awright]

Ah but....

Cow's milk is allowed to have feces in it. This is a major source for bacteria. Milk is typically pasteurized more than once before it gets to your table... each time for only 15 seconds at 162 degrees Fahrenheit.

To sanitize water one is told to boil it (212 degrees F) for several minutes. That is a tremendous disparity, isn't it!

Keep in mind that at room temperature the number of bacteria in milk DOUBLE around every 20 minutes. No wonder milk turns rotten very quickly.

[endless psych]

Originally Posted by psychodubmeiste

how else can you research something aside from reading, talking, searching and watching? Spying?

Polite folks refer to "spying" as ethnography.

You are familiar with the experimental method yes? Fundamentally flawed (some might say) but its considered 'quite' good.

[LesMTS]

The calcium they consume from plants has a large amount of magnesium

Oh dear. I know what they're trying to say but no-one who even knew what they were talking about in the slightest would word this like it has been worded here.

[psychodubmeiste]

In actual real terms - history is impossible to repeat. In terms of language and explanation (perhaps even meaning) history can be repeated. I reckon that in cases of something truly 'original' or 'new' happening then because of the way language and understanding (might) work then we are doomed to see history repeating.

That is to say history repeats because the way we communicate prefers avoiding the creation of new words or concepts to explain events. IE. Me walking down the street and you walking down the street can both be explained and understood as either of us walking down the street. No new word or expression is needed - but this does not determine that there are fundamental differenes between the actual acts.

ok, then lets relate that to the similarities in historical events such as 'terrorist' attacks on a nation, and the consequences thereof:

ref: http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/30/opinion/30harris.html
Rome’s port at Ostia was set on fire in 68BC .. in the aftermath of the attack, the Roman people made decisions that set them on the path to the destruction of their Constitution, their democracy and their liberty. The perpetrators of this spectacular assault were not in the pay of any foreign power: no nation would have dared to attack Rome so provocatively. So, who did it?

ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_fire
The Reichstag fire in 1933 insigated by 'communist terrorists' was later discovered to have been started by the Nazi's themselves, in order to allow Hitler to ban the Communist Party, which later turned out to be a Nazi conspiracy, to unite Germany to fight a common enemy.

they call this "the oldest trick in the political book" - striking fear into the population to control them.

I found this while looking for more:

Real conspiracies -- in contrast to mere theories -- have spawned fear, murder, lies, and revolution throughout history. Driven by greed, envy, or utopian visions, they reflected the darkness of human nature. No nation or empire has been immune to such intrigue. Betrayal, murder, and convenient wars stain the records of ancient Israel and Judah as well as the history of mighty empires like Assyria, Babylon, Persia, China, Greece, and Rome. The nations of Renaissance Europe -- always competing for dominion and commercial markets -- were torn by the same human impulses.

and this:

"Our society and our culture is not a conspiracy. There are no cynics at the top of the pyramid who use their power to maintain an unnecessarily unequal society. Stratified society is perpetuated because of the self-interest that everybody has in not sinking down." Noel Pearson, Aboriginal activist

so there are both sides of the coin..

What I think is interesting (and shit), is that the negative actions of the few, end up taking away the liberties of the majority. This happens in day to day life, as well as across an entire country.

[Awright]

The cholesterol content of those three glasses of milk is equal to what one would get from 53 slices of bacon. Do you know of any doctor who recommends that much bacon per day?

Quincy?

[Devastator]

I've never heard of a doctor giving out any advice on bacon.

[endless psych]

Originally Posted by psychodubmeiste

ok, then lets relate that to the similarities in historical events such as 'terrorist' attacks on a nation, and the consequences thereof:

I'll put this down to me either being too drunk to make the point or that you have utterly missed it.

[LesMTS]

Originally Posted by Devastator

I've never heard of a doctor giving out any advice on bacon.

Cause he'd get his bum all greasy, surely.

[Awright]

80% of the protein in milk is casein. Casein is a powerful binder... a
polymer used to make plastics... and a glue that is better used to make
sturdy furniture or hold beer bottle labels in place. It is in
thousands of processed foods as a binder... as "something" caseinate.

Drinking glue can't be good for your stomach...

[psychodubmeiste]

Originally Posted by endless psych

I'll put this down to me either being too drunk to make the point or that you have utterly missed it.

yeah I think I did, then went on another rant..