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8th January 2008, 5:42pm
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#31 | | A Jubilant Mass Editor
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Originally Posted by poprock  BBC News is the only news source I accept at face value (ie. without considering fact-checking against alternative sources). | Channel 4 News may be pretty heavily biased, but BBC News is quite often just flat-out wrong. The less said about BBC Scotland the better.
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8th January 2008, 6:01pm
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#32 | | I hate your band SuperMod
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As far as I’m aware, the BBC News service is the last bastion of enforced fact-checking. That’s why it so often gets beaten to the punch by other news sources: Because they don’t publish without verification.
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8th January 2008, 6:08pm
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#33 | | I hate your band SuperMod
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Originally Posted by pANDAS Radio Fair enough. I just don't associate shows like The Real Hustle, Can Fat Kids Hunt, Sex...With Mum And Dad and 2 Pints Of Lager with quality programming worth paying for. | Certainly not … but there’s a shedload of good stuff too. Looking just at tonight’s schedules I see Kill it Cook it Eat it, Atom, Pop: What is it Good For?, The Arcade Fire live at Reading, Mighty Boosh, Masterpieces of Vienna, and The Boys from Baghdad High. That’s more interesting stuff than I could actually bear to watch in one night.
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8th January 2008, 6:24pm
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#34 | | Hyphen Hyphen
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Should make the BBC world service channel available in the UK, it's way better than BBC news 24. If they don't get you to pay a tv licence, they'll just make you pay more tax on your fuel to fund the BBC 
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8th January 2008, 6:29pm
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#35 | | A Jubilant Mass Editor
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Originally Posted by poprock As far as I’m aware, the BBC News service is the last bastion of enforced fact-checking. That’s why it so often gets beaten to the punch by other news sources: Because they don’t publish without verification. | Like when they told the world that there was a confirmed report of life on Mars? Sorry, they're wrong about all sorts of things, all the time.
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8th January 2008, 6:31pm
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#36 | | Super Discunt
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Originally Posted by poprock Certainly not … but there’s a shedload of good stuff too. Looking just at tonight’s schedules I see Kill it Cook it Eat it, Atom, Pop: What is it Good For?, The Arcade Fire live at Reading, Mighty Boosh, Masterpieces of Vienna, and The Boys from Baghdad High. That’s more interesting stuff than I could actually bear to watch in one night. | And which shows you mentioned aren't on digital tv tonight? Every person with a tv has to pay the license fee, but not everyone with a tv can watch the shows you mentioned. When there was colour or B&W the license reflected that difference, but now someone just with a tv is paying for everything that is possible. Slightly unfair.
Besides, the BBC gets a lot of it's news from outside sources like Reuters. If you want to see a good description of TV news then you might enjoy these vids showing how news has changed through the ages. Particularly Part 2 | |
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8th January 2008, 6:35pm
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#37 | | Should Be Working
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Originally Posted by McLeary I thought everyone on AltNation just downloaded television nowadays anyway. | Downloading is so 2003, my televisual watching habits are dictated by whatever youTubes AN links to. | |
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8th January 2008, 6:36pm
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#38 | | Super Discunt
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Originally Posted by djbarry Should make the BBC world service channel available in the UK, it's way better than BBC news 24. If they don't get you to pay a tv licence, they'll just make you pay more tax on your fuel to fund the BBC |
Thats alright, I don't drive. Too many Daily Mail readers on the roads these days. | |
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8th January 2008, 6:36pm
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#39 | | Sith Triumvir Moderator
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Originally Posted by poprock As far as I’m aware, the BBC News service is the last bastion of enforced fact-checking. That’s why it so often gets beaten to the punch by other news sources: Because they don’t publish without verification. | The problem is that in the wake of the Anderw Gilligham thing on the Today program, the BBC has stopped challenging the government at all expect on a few programs (ie Breakfast with Frost, News Night, some of the R4 and R Scotland content). There was also was a tendancy (about two years ago when I choose to avoid the BBC TV news in the same way I avoid Sky News) to take very pro-Government line on many issues, which wasn't present before.
Right now, I wouldn't trust BBC news further then I could throw them.
Also, I agree with Barry on the World Service thing. The quality of journalism on it seems much more balanced. They have some pretty interesting documentaries on it as well. | |
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8th January 2008, 6:59pm
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#40 | | giver of sight
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I do watch the BBC far more than most channels. I almost never watch ITV and channel four has been crap for years. The other channels are not free we do pay for em as we all seem to buy the shit that is advertised. The thing that scares me the most is UK tv going like American telly. Independent channels have had an increase in the advertising times in a program for the UK right now and it is not that far off of America. Sky has adverts but you pay a subscription to view the programing as well.
BBC will not get a government back ten years again if it does not change so they are setting itself up for that now. They were talking about raising the price of programs that are sold to the rest of the world. Cutting services and even PPV channels. It is time it changed its ways, way too many people payed too much and crappy shows like Eastenders. I am up for maintaining the license as just over 13 quid a month per household for 8 tv channels and many radio stations and the website is good by me.
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8th January 2008, 7:32pm
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#41 | | Auf Wiedersehen
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I'll never forgive the BBC for saying Oink was a subscription service piracy site.
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8th January 2008, 7:40pm
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#42 | | Sith Triumvir Moderator
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Originally Posted by Anhedoniac The thing that scares me the most is UK tv going like American telly. | It's been like that for as long as there has been commercial satalite and cable (25ish years now). It's nothing new (expect that more and more people are using subscription services). | |
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8th January 2008, 7:45pm
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#43 | | Super Discunt
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Did you know that BBC TV shows can use tracks by most bands, including The Beatles, without paying the large PRS fee because the beeb have a blanket agreement that covers all their services? The same isn't true for commercial stations who have to pay quite a bit of cash for each and every track they use unless it falls into certain categories. | |
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8th January 2008, 8:08pm
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#44 | | HAX0R JIM DUGGAN
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Originally Posted by Posh I'll never forgive the BBC for saying Oink was a subscription service piracy site. | I'll never forgive the BBC for giving Div airtime.
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8th January 2008, 8:21pm
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#45 | | Auf Wiedersehen
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I'll never forgive the BBC for making Catherine Tate the new assistant.
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