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Old 15th April 2008, 11:23am   #16
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Re: End gay blood ban.

There are questions regarding your sexual exploits that rule people out. I cannae mind why but I laughed at question 48 when I was filling it out. I cannae even mind the question.

Theres all sorts, if ye've had a tattoo in the last 6-12 month or something.
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Old 15th April 2008, 11:23am   #17
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Re: End gay blood ban.

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See Les's post.

High-risk isn't limited to gay men.
Had the screen up while working on something else, posted too late to see that, editing wouldn't make sense now lol.
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Re: End gay blood ban.

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Though I'm unfamiliar is the ban on gay people giving blood or on anyone thats had anal sex?
I think it's any males that have had anal sex.

One of the questions for girls asks if you've ever had sex with a guy who's had anal sex. As if your boyfriend's gonna tell you about all his homosexual experimentation!
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Old 15th April 2008, 11:24am   #19
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There are questions regarding your sexual exploits that rule people out. I cannae mind why but I laughed at question 48 when I was filling it out. I cannae even mind the question.

Theres all sorts, if ye've had a tattoo in the last 6-12 month or something.
Aye tattoo or piercing in the last year.

I'm sure theres one about bestiality aswell, I love the forms, good giggle.
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Old 15th April 2008, 11:24am   #20
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Re: End gay blood ban.

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I think it's any males that have had anal sex.
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Old 15th April 2008, 11:26am   #21
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Re: End gay blood ban.

the questionnaire thing focuses on sexual activity, not sexuality and if you're looking at it that way anal sex still puts people at the highest risk of HIV transmission.

one of the questions on the BTS website is:

"have you had sex during the last 12 months with someone who is, or may be, HIV positive, or a carrier of Hepatitis B or C"

from what i've read on there, the screening is not 100% effective on its own. This is about risk prevention, not discrimination as far as I can see.

There are so many other activities that prevent you from donation for the same reason. I couldn't give blood because I may have been exposed to malaria in the past year. A lot of people on the forum couldn't because they've been pierced/tattooed in the last year.

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Re: End gay blood ban.

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Aye, but Forbes asked if it was anyone who'd had anal sex... I was just pointing oot it doesn't apply to females.
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Re: End gay blood ban.

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"Abolishing the rule for gay men would increase the risk of an HIV-infected donation entering the blood supply by about five times, and changing the rule to allow gay men to donate one year after they last had sex with a man would increase the risk by 60 per cent."" Mate this is 2008, it just smacks of homophobia
I didn't know the year affected the risk factor!

From reading that I can see why they are erring on the side of caution if the numbers being quoted are right.

There are alot of reasons for not being allowed to give blood and I can't see them being on there, just for a laugh!
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Old 15th April 2008, 11:28am   #24
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Re: End gay blood ban.

Also prostitutes, intravenous drug users and anyone who's ever participated in "blood swapping" practises (for religious reasons or otherwise), are excluded.
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Re: End gay blood ban.

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There are questions regarding your sexual exploits that rule people out. I cannae mind why but I laughed at question 48 when I was filling it out. I cannae even mind the question.

Theres all sorts, if ye've had a tattoo in the last 6-12 month or something.
Think it's 12 months in scotland for a tattoo and 6 in England.

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Having had Anal sex does not always make you gay or bi . Some hetro couples enjoy this as well.
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Re: End gay blood ban.

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The blood transfusion service still does not recognise the small risk posed by gay men, even though HIV/AIDS rates in heterosexuals are higher than those in the gay community apparently.
Gay men, as a group, have an increasing rate of infection.

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In some communities in the UK, particularly gay and African communities, there are a higher number of people who have HIV.
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Although only about 1% of the total population of Britain are adult gay men, almost half of the people living with HIV are gay men.
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Re: End gay blood ban.

I'm not yet favouring either option, until I understand how we arrived at the current legislation and if it's still relevant. If it's simply baseless persecution, I'll happily support the repeal. Until then, I'm saving righteous indignation.
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Re: End gay blood ban.

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Think it's 12 months in scotland for a tattoo and 6 in England.

Having had Anal sex does not always make you gay or bi . Some hetro couples enjoy this as well.
my 'aka gay or bi' was in reply to 'any males that have had anal sex'


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Maybe including high-risk blood in screening doesn't produce significant returns as to make the cost worthwhile?
This would've been my take on the matter. I severely doubt homophobia has anything to do with it, when they're always calling out for more blood.
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Think it's 12 months in scotland for a tattoo and 6 in England.

Having had Anal sex does not always make you gay or bi . Some hetro couples enjoy this as well.
Can't remember the exact wording, but it's something like 'engaged in intercourse with someone of the same sex'. Also, as far as bisexuals go, there are restrictions on their female partners as well, although that might be time limited.

I would presume that you can become infected with HIV without having penetrative sex at all. Through ingesting semen for example.
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