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15th April 2008, 10:42am
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#1 | | Stop pissing me off...
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| End gay blood ban.
Following on from a news snippet on t'news. Moves are afoot to try to overturn the ban on homosexual men donating blood. The blood transfusion service still does not recognise the small risk posed by gay men, even though HIV/AIDS rates in heterosexuals are higher than those in the gay community apparently. http://news.scotsman.com/scotland/Ca...gay.3980676.jp
What are your thoughts on this? Would you be happy to accept blood from a gay man?
Personally I don't care. It passes the screening its good for me. | 
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15th April 2008, 10:44am
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#2 | | Fattly Drawn Boy SuperMod
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| Re: End gay blood ban.
Yeah, it's all screened anyway. I don't see what the problem is.
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15th April 2008, 10:45am
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#3 | | Loa Of Death
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| Re: End gay blood ban.
But what if it turns you gay?
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15th April 2008, 10:47am
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#4 | | Strong protect the weak Admin
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| Re: End gay blood ban.
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Originally Posted by Puppy  Following on from a news snippet on t'news. Moves are afoot to try to overturn the ban on homosexual men donating blood. The blood transfusion service still does not recognise the small risk posed by gay men, even though HIV/AIDS rates in heterosexuals are higher than those in the gay community apparently. http://news.scotsman.com/scotland/Ca...gay.3980676.jp
What are your thoughts on this? Would you be happy to accept blood from a gay man?
Personally I don't care. It passes the screening its good for me. | But the blood might turn me GAY!
Seriously not a problem in the slightest as you say if it passes the screening is there really any increased risk, unless the BTS have reasons to suggest there would be an increased risk. Though I'm unfamiliar is the ban on gay people giving blood or on anyone thats had anal sex?
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15th April 2008, 10:50am
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#5 | | Loa Of Death
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| Re: End gay blood ban.
To be fair, chances are you'd only turn half-gay. You'd probably have to experience your first boabing before becoming a full gay. Bit like The Lost Boys.
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15th April 2008, 10:51am
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#6 | | Lady Of War
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| Re: End gay blood ban.
as far as im aware the ban on gay's giving blood stemmed from the AIDS/HIV in the 70's/80's, im unsure if its an anal sex thing though.
I dont care were the hell the blood comes from, everyone's blood is screened
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15th April 2008, 10:53am
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#7 | | borte, ikke glemt
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| Re: End gay blood ban.
It's a bit ridiculous really.
As has been said, there is a screening process for all blood that is donated, what's the problem?
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15th April 2008, 10:55am
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#8 | | Lady Of War
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"Dr Brian McClelland, strategy director at ScotBlood, said: "This donor-selection rule is often misunderstood and perceived to be discriminatory. This is not the case.
"While the absolute number of cases of HIV in heterosexuals diagnosed annually is greater than for men who have had sex with men, when the size of the respective populations is taken into account it can be seen that the relative risk of exposure is very different."
He added: "Figures would indicate a man who has had sex with a man is seven times more likely to contract HIV than a heterosexual.
"Abolishing the rule for gay men would increase the risk of an HIV-infected donation entering the blood supply by about five times, and changing the rule to allow gay men to donate one year after they last had sex with a man would increase the risk by 60 per cent."" Mate this is 2008, it just smacks of homophobia
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15th April 2008, 10:56am
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#9 | | Better not to err
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| Re: End gay blood ban.
Hah, I didn't know they didn't allow homosexuals to donate blood.
What about bisexuals? Where do you draw the line?
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15th April 2008, 10:59am
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#10 | | Meat Festival
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Originally Posted by LesMTS Yeah, it's all screened anyway. I don't see what the problem is. | Maybe including high-risk blood in screening doesn't produce significant returns as to make the cost worthwhile? I honestly don't know, I'm just trying to understand.
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15th April 2008, 11:01am
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#11 | | says Addy
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Abolishing the rule for gay men would increase the risk of an HIV-infected donation entering the blood supply by about five times, and changing the rule to allow gay men to donate one year after they last had sex with a man would increase the risk by 60 per cent
| If those figures are true then no I wouldn't.
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15th April 2008, 11:15am
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#12 | | Fattly Drawn Boy SuperMod
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| Re: End gay blood ban.
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Originally Posted by Frankie LiDeo Maybe including high-risk blood in screening doesn't produce significant returns as to make the cost worthwhile? I honestly don't know, I'm just trying to understand. | That's a good point, yeah. Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkMono Hah, I didn't know they didn't allow homosexuals to donate blood.
What about bisexuals? Where do you draw the line?
Half-funny/half-ridiculous. | It's not necessarily homosexuals, male bisexuals who had been sexually active with a male partner would also be excluded.
You're also completely excluded from giving blood if you've had sex with a native of certain countries (mostly in Africa).
They ask you a bunch of reasonably specific questions about your sex life (among other things) when you first go to give blood.
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15th April 2008, 11:19am
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#13 | | borte, ikke glemt
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| Re: End gay blood ban.
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Originally Posted by Frankie LiDeo Maybe including high-risk blood in screening doesn't produce significant returns as to make the cost worthwhile? I honestly don't know, I'm just trying to understand. | But then, where do you draw the line at who is high risk etc? There are from many accounts increasing problems with numbers of the population affected by STIs and STDs in general. I'm kinda at a loose end to fathom why anyone who is gay would be any more/less susceptible than anyone who isn't.
And like Mark says, what of people who are bisexual?
Can of worms or what?
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15th April 2008, 11:21am
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#14 | | Meat Festival
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See Les's post.
High-risk isn't limited to gay men.
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15th April 2008, 11:22am
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#15 | | (suicidemachine)
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i've had a few blood transfusions and I wouldn't mind if i was upped to13% gay  | |
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