[Politics] Cannabis to be reclassified as a Class B drug.

[Bunnylingus]

Nah man.

only if I canny get any mdma

We all got older and wiser, thats it.

[Semprini]

"Hello, boffins? Yes, Labour here. We'd like a report on drugs. If you could pander to the Daily Mail in your findings, we might consider them"

[Hammer]

Did New Labour not downgrade canabis to start with?

Joined up politics right there

[Stew]

Thinking about it, though, we can only really conclude two things about Gordon Brown. Including this, and the reversal on casinos, either he believes that changing policy will be politically beneficial for him, which would single him out as something of an idiot flailing around wildly out of his depth (see: Howard, Michael), or he actually never supported them in the first place and he wants them gone.

On reflection, it seems like it surely must be the second one. I mean, "idiot who doesn't realise that the Telegraph will call him a cunt anyway because their editorial staff went to school with several Tory MPs" is a possibility, but he surely must have more political nous than that.

Quote of the day, though:

Liberal Democrat home affairs spokesman Chris Huhne said that, as its advice had been disregarded, ministers should disband the advisory council of experts and replace it with an advisory council of "tabloid newspaper editors".

[Jenpot]

My intellectual input is that this is crap.

[GoddamnElectric]

I see Labour is making a big deal of how, since downgrading to Class C, stronger varieties of 'skunk' cannabis have become more prevalent (accounting for 80% of cannabis seized on the streets, according to the BBC), and it's this changing of the goalposts which apparently justifies the u-turn on policy. I'm curious now - knowing that quite a few forumers indulge in cannabis, can any of them actually shed some light on this? Is this actually true, or a load of complete nonsense? Are you or are you not buying the exact same thing you did 3 years ago?

[MarkMono]

I have bought skunk precisely three times in Glasgow ever, and two of those were in the 90s. If that gives you any idea.

[GoddamnElectric]

Certainly not "80%" then. I have to eye that particular statistic with heavy suspicion, it looks an awful lot like a random number plucked from the ether to add credence to a faltering argument.

For the record I'm fairly anti-drug, I just find made up Government statistics more irritating on a day to day level.

[Zippy]

I haven't noticed any difference from when it was a class B then a class C so them reclassifying it to a class B shouldn't make any more of a difference to me.

[MarkMono]

Originally Posted by GoddamnElectric

Certainly not "80%" then. I have to eye that particular statistic with heavy suspicion, it looks an awful lot like a random number plucked from the ether to add credence to a faltering argument.

For the record I'm fairly anti-drug, I just find made up Government statistics more irritating on a day to day level.

Take it you mean for recreational use rather than medicinal, yeah?

Nah, it is utter, utter lies. The most recent phenomenon hitting the streets is weed which has been sprayed with Laquer to make it keep its weight as it dries, making it far weaker and generally more of a rip-off.

I occasionally find myself envying the people the BBC must poll.

[endless psych]

Originally Posted by GoddamnElectric

I see Labour is making a big deal of how, since downgrading to Class C, stronger varieties of 'skunk' cannabis have become more prevalent (accounting for 80% of cannabis seized on the streets, according to the BBC), and it's this changing of the goalposts which apparently justifies the u-turn on policy. I'm curious now - knowing that quite a few forumers indulge in cannabis, can any of them actually shed some light on this? Is this actually true, or a load of complete nonsense? Are you or are you not buying the exact same thing you did 3 years ago?

The stronger varieties of 'skunk' is largely unsubstantiated (well from the papers I've found thus far anyway) it also appears that stronger varieties peaked in 2000 and have been steadily falling since then...

I'll look for some more stats and the like.

[Hammer]

Originally Posted by MarkMono

I occasionally find myself envying the people the BBC must poll.

Nah. It's just that none of the BBC staff can get decent weed.

[MarkMono]

Other way round surely?

[GoddamnElectric]

Originally Posted by endless psych

The stronger varieties of 'skunk' is largely unsubstantiated (well from the papers I've found thus far anyway) it also appears that stronger varieties peaked in 2000 and have been steadily falling since then...

I'll look for some more stats and the like.

Are these the same people who told us the Taliban were going to poison all the drugs? Wtf was that all about - I was at a gig once and the tannoy annoncer actually gave a shout out about it

Originally Posted by MarkMono

Take it you mean for recreational use rather than medicinal, yeah?

Nah, it is utter, utter lies. The most recent phenomenon hitting the streets is weed which has been sprayed with Laquer to make it keep its weight as it dries, making it far weaker and generally more of a rip-off.

I occasionally find myself envying the people the BBC must poll.

Aye, thats right. I would never begrudge an MS sufferer from their weed, doctors are happy to prescribe stronger things for lesser ailments after all. In fact the only problem I really have with cannabis and drugs in general is the proportion of users who do nothing else with their lives. All things in moderation. People who actually hold down an honest job and generally display some degree of social responsibility can happily do whatever they like, if you ask me.

I had my suspicions about all this, based purely on the fact that the only rise in general urban trouble to my eyes is a whole generation of 'yoofs' with no idea how to drink. That's an alcohol problem. Not a jot of difference in terms of drugs from now and when I first started kicking around Glasgow, in my experience.

[I'm Your God Now]

It's a bit of a silly backtrack, I pretty much agree with those Frank adverts being awful.

Doesn't bother me anyway, I only smoke crack.