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Old 7th May 2008, 5:12pm   #1
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Welcome To Philadelphia..

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A half-dozen police officers kicked and beat three men pulled from a car during a traffic stop as a TV helicopter taped the confrontation.


Aerial video captures Philly officers in a confrontation with shooting suspects.
The video, shot by WTXF-TV, shows three police cars stopping a car Monday, two days after a city officer was shot to death responding to a bank robbery.

The tape shows about a dozen officers gathering around the vehicle. About a half-dozen officers hold two of the men on the ground. Both are kicked repeatedly, while one is seen being punched; one also appears to be struck with a baton.

The third man is also kicked and ends up on the ground.

"On the surface it certainly does not look good in terms of the amount of force that was used," Police Commissioner Charles Ramsey said. "But we don't want to rush to judgment."

The officers were responding to a report of a shooting nearby, police said. It was not immediately clear what preceded the confrontation.

http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/wireStory?id=4801701
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Old 7th May 2008, 5:17pm   #2
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Re: Welcome To Philadelphia..

Horrifying, incompetent, unprofesional and sloppy, I mean imagine being caught on camera!
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Old 7th May 2008, 5:41pm   #3
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Re: Welcome To Philadelphia..

Yeah seen that, looks pretty damn bad. Need to hear the whole story however before I pass judgement.
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Yeah seen that, looks pretty damn bad. Need to hear the whole story however before I pass judgement.
Right for the love of all that is rational how can you begin to justify the scene being perpetrated in that video?
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Re: Welcome To Philadelphia..

Being a cop must be awesome.

I know a guy who used to live in Philadelphia, but after some trouble his mum decided it'd be best if he moved elsewhere, I think he ended up living with his aunt and uncle some where.
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Re: Welcome To Philadelphia..

I think I know the guy you mean, it was just one little fight wasn't it?

Total over reaction if you ask me.
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Re: Welcome To Philadelphia..

Is it wrong that i feel more surprise and morale out rage about the ten seconds of adverts i needed to watch before seeing the video?
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Right for the love of all that is rational how can you begin to justify the scene being perpetrated in that video?
I'm not. At what point did I even attempt to justify it?! All I said is I want to hear the entire story, clearly what the cops are doing is wrong and a massive overuse of force. However I want to hear the entire story rather than just a videoclip of the incident.

Obviously news reports will fill in the missing information, what happened, who the people on the ground are, why the fuck there's a million cops there, and what's their excuse.

Not justifying at all. Do you always jump on people when you think there is a tiny chance they don't agree with you Mr. Politics?
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Not justifying at all.
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Yeah seen that, looks pretty damn bad. Need to hear the whole story however before I pass judgement.
Begs to differ. Needing to hear the whole story sounds a lot like your allowing room for the scenes on the video to be explained reasonably... Also the "before I pass judgement" bit further implies you are unsure that the events are unjustifiable...
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Re: Welcome To Philadelphia..

I've heard plenty of stories about the same thing happening in Scotland. The Police may be the good guys in theory, but the sun certainly does not shine out of their arses.
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I've heard plenty of stories about the same thing happening in Scotland. The Police may be the good guys in theory, but the sun certainly does not shine out of their arses.
My mate got fucked up big time by the police for no real reason (as far as i know, Brett may be able to give a bit more info on why), luckily he got heavily compensated for it.
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Remember hearing about how one of the school bullies that used to unsuccessfully attempt to bug one of my friends was now a cop. Bumped into him in a club a year or so later and the first thing he did after making clumsy awkward introductions under my baleful glare was blame peer pressure and the other folks he hung with. So, in conclusion, still a fucking snake.
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Begs to differ. Needing to hear the whole story sounds a lot like your allowing room for the scenes on the video to be explained reasonably... Also the "before I pass judgement" bit further implies you are unsure that the events are unjustifiable...
No it's just I prefer to form an opinion when I have more of the facts available. I stated that it looks very bad, and still hold to that. It looks obscenely bad. But I want to know the other circumstances around it rather than basically a YouTube style clip.
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He called it.

Remember hearing about how one of the school bullies that used to unsuccessfully attempt to bug one of my friends was now a cop. Bumped into him in a club a year or so later and the first thing he did after making clumsy awkward introductions under my baleful glare was blame peer pressure and the other folks he hung with. So, in conclusion, still a fucking snake.
Reminds me of story that my Guidance Teacher from Secondary told me. His Brother is a reasonably high-ranking Polis in Glasgow, and the pair of them got tickets for a big old firm game a few years ago. Anyway, they were sitting in the Rangers side, and when the game finished they ended up both getting hit about by the coppers outside. Until my teacher's brother pulled out his warrent card...

Having never actually been to a football match let alone an old firm game, I have no idea if this is par for the course, but it seems out of line. I doubt a teacher and a policeman who could have lost his job for arseing around were playing silly buggers.
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