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Old 29th August 2008, 1:01pm   #31
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Re: Obama Comes Out Against Free Speech

When Obama's name is a killing word I'll start worrying.
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Old 29th August 2008, 1:12pm   #32
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Michelle Malkin's opinion is very much invalid.

Case closed.
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Old 29th August 2008, 2:18pm   #33
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Before you accuse me of having loopy notions. Keep in mind that Nietzsche and Wagner were discussed at the Nuremburg trials.
Irrelevant. I believe Neitzsche was discussed inasmuch as his philosophy was 'espoused by the nazis and twisted to suit their own diabolical ends'.
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"The desire to be a politician should bar you for life from ever being one".
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On what basis can you say she is paranoid?
Well she seems to have confused legitimatly attacking a right wing smear campaign with censorship and attacking free speech.

I'd also like to say

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Is hilarious. Conservative broadcaster disseminates election propoganda against less conservative candidate. Less conservative candidate encourages supporters to complain.

All the more ridiculous is the fact that the vast majority of American media has a right wing bias and as such Obama will have little influence over them - hence the silencer tag is a bit silly.

Its a bit like ye olde Tory rhetoric of the tyranny of anti-racists and the trots. Nonsense in other words.
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Old 29th August 2008, 3:17pm   #36
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Well she seems to have confused legitimatly attacking a right wing smear campaign with censorship and attacking free speech.

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Is hilarious. Conservative broadcaster disseminates election propoganda against less conservative candidate. Less conservative candidate encourages supporters to complain.

All the more ridiculous is the fact that the vast majority of American media has a right wing bias and as such Obama will have little influence over them - hence the silencer tag is a bit silly.

Its a bit like ye olde Tory rhetoric of the tyranny of anti-racists and the trots. Nonsense in other words.
Do you not think you could have a Political-Media paradigm where only a few views dominate?
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Do you not think you could have a Political-Media paradigm where only a few views dominate?
Do you want to put that in English jargon boy?
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Old 29th August 2008, 3:35pm   #38
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Do you want to put that in English jargon boy?
You seem to accept that their can be a bias in the media you just dont think its a left wing bias as you say that it has a conservative bias.
So clearly the media and politcs can be dominated by one or a few political philosphies.
How is this achieved in practical terms? Through the methods Obama is employing writting letters of complaint to legal/regulatry bodies, having your supporters lodge complaints with media companies, befriending key journalists and editors. So far so good this is all run of the mill campaigning and perfectly legal. MMs complaint is that Obama is attempting to hinder legitimate comment. Which suggests authoritarian tendencies. As I dont think its unfair to point out that some of Obama's associates are radical marxists.
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Old 29th August 2008, 3:45pm   #39
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Sake.

That made no sense, even if you ignore the lies and contradictions.
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Re: Obama Comes Out Against Free Speech

Here's something on the Rev, Wright thing http://libertarianrepublican.blogspo...extremism.html

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You seem to accept that their can be a bias in the media you just dont think its a left wing bias as you say that it has a conservative bias.
Ciruclation figures for the British newspapers.

British right wing/centre right/conservative newspapers:- Daily Telegraph 871,598, Daily Express 761,637, Daily Mail 2,353,807, the sun 3,121,000, the times 618,160, Sunday times 1,202,235, News of the world 3,445,459, Scotsman 53,513.

Total right of centre:- 12,427,409

British centre-left/left wing/liberal/socialist etc papers:- Guardian 351,031, Independent 243,398, Observer 454,374, Daily Mirror (apparently labour) 1,443,413, Morning star between 13,000 and 14,000*, Herald 65,800, Socialist worker 1,200.

Total left of centre:- 2,573,216

Ratio of Readers of right wing press to left wing press:- 4.83 (to 2d.p.)

*Used highest figures in cases of all estimates.

(I have circulation figures for the major American papers but no idea what their political allegiences are. Also ratings for major networks are avalible but again no editorial slant info seems to be avaliable.)
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.. and with that, the defence rests...

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So how is life in the free socialist republik of Amerika now?
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