Denying The Holocaust

[mishelle]

Ha! ok then, nevermind...

[MarkMono]

Despite the popularity of Nirvana, nevermind is still not a word.

[mishelle]

oh my

[MarkMono]

Well, whatever.

[PAPA LAZEROU]

I can understand why there is outrage at people who deny the holocaust happened, that sort of shit should never be forgotten as when you forget, thats when the shit happens again.

BUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

To get all radio-fuckin-rental towards people who deny the holocaust is a bit on the rich side because the very fact that the Allies 'won' the war resulted in giving us good old freedom of speech and thought basically shoots the freedom of 'speech and thought' down like a buring spitfire/messerschmit.

Basically it means that we all have fredom of speech and though as long as we say and think acceptable things.

Does any of that make sense? Probably not but fuck it!!!

I deny any involvement in the holocaust....i have cast-iron alibis and witnesses who will testify that i 'wunt therr man' and that it was 'somecunt else'.

Peace(and jam)

[Syxx]

Denial in general just makes me laugh too much these days.

[Noizy Rab]

i wonder if in years to come people sympathetic to israel will deny the genocide they're committing right now... oh look! they are already!

[djtoast]

I agree with the majority of these sentiments.

For the record I'm not sure I do, I just meant to point out the rich tapestry of cultures we enjoy on this tiny planet that means peace is never gonna be achievable; ie there's more than one opinion about everything and telling other people how they should feel about something on this scale is certainly fruitless and on that basis probably stupid.

Whether you're a shaven-headed swastica-waving black-shirt-wearing ultra-right-wing nutjob like crazydiamind85, or one of the chosen people.

[Syxx]

The best example i can think of was this thread, i which Tommy was too busy being outraged at the past to acknowledge that the rest of the world had moved on.

[Noizy Rab]

For the record I'm not sure I do, I just meant to point out the rich tapestry of cultures we enjoy on this tiny planet that means peace is never gonna be achievable; ie there's more than one opinion about everything and telling other people how they should feel about something on this scale is certainly fruitless and on that basis probably stupid.

Whether you're a shaven-headed swastica-waving black-shirt-wearing ultra-right-wing nutjob like crazydiamind85, or one of the chosen people.

what about their cousins who think jesus is magic?

[Bunnylingus]

it was what 60 years ago?
move on people

Which means that people are still alive who can probably remember a lot of it. I dunno, maybe if it was 200 years ago and we lived in a peaceful world, I could see the point of 'moving on'.

[MarkMono]

Move on from yesterdays atrocities and focus on today's.

[Bunnylingus]

Thinking on it, I'd probably agree with the sentiment, but I don't think it should be forgotten. History's there so we can learn from our mistakes.

I also agree that the numbers are probably a bit skewed, by the way.

[metallideth]

The worst shit of course is someone going "I don't think six million people died", and then hitting out with a figure perhaps half or a quarter of that when asked to expand. Well now lads, you only bumped off a million or two, I sure hope no one makes up 'lies' about the figure lest anyone think you're a bunch of murderous racists.

[Bunnylingus]

I do think though that people have a right to say that the figure's been exaggerated - statistics in general are pretty unreliable (Well, from my experience in sociology/criminology), I don't think it would mean that anyone could argue it was any better/worse based upon numbers.