[News] Two soldiers shot dead inside their own barracks - Page 5

Largest of Als · 9th March 2009, 3:52pm

Just saying I cant see how you can compare Northern Ireland to Iraq/Afghanistan...

But then I don't really have any sort of interest in either side of the political/religious situation there, unlike many of the people here do...

Al

AWESOMEUS MAXIMUS · 9th March 2009, 4:10pm

Which is exactly why folk are doing this; 0_o.
Why bother throwing yer 2 bit offensive comments in at all if you've no interest? I mean ask away but your first couple of comments come across like you know or have an interest in what you are talking about, which is why Les has pointed out as much mate.

Rawrrr · 9th March 2009, 4:12pm

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Originally Posted by AWESOMEUS MAXIMUS

Also, don't think the troubles would return (however much it would suit the UK) but there will most definately be, as usual, a loyalist back lash.

I sincerely hope the troubles don't start again because I for one couldn't bare to live in that situation again. The weekends events happened in my home town and ten minutes from my house. There definately will be a loyalist backlash, and i'm hoping it won't go tit for tat.

Jaemi · 9th March 2009, 4:38pm

Wee bit snyde fae Al there again..

Dec · 9th March 2009, 5:10pm

If it was the RIRA, I'd be interested in hearing their reason for it. After such a long period of republican guerilla inactivity, if it's not been a British engineered inside job, I wouldn't be surprised if it was retaliation for something that's happened recently that we've been unaware of.

As Chris has said I can't condone the killing of anyone, but there's still a very real war on in the occupied territories, and these men are unfortunately the casualties. The biggest tragedy is that two young working class men were in a dangerous situation and died, just so Britain can secure it's sovereignty in a country that doesn't belong to them.

AWESOMEUS MAXIMUS · 9th March 2009, 5:17pm

I don't think for one second the state killed them, but I simply cannot believe that the state never knew about it in advance, given the warnings/infiltration of the paramilitries.

Guerilla inactivity fuck all, this shit goes on all the time, theres just no been any deaths of military personnell. The groups are pre-occupied with sorting out the 'drugs trade' in their communities.

That's what I can't get my head around, the timing of this shit.
I'll wait on official statement, as I said.

Dec · 9th March 2009, 5:24pm

I've never seen the republican guerilla group's "activities" with drug dealers as part of the armed campaign, seems more like regular community vigilantism, but I see your point.

PAPA LAZEROU · 9th March 2009, 5:38pm

its a sad thing to happen, especially as there has been no trouble for a long while over in Ireland. I just hope that it was a one off and there are no reprisals or shit from it.

crazydiamond85 · 9th March 2009, 6:31pm

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Originally Posted by Largest of Als

Sorry.. When did Northern Ireland become a 'foreign land'?

Al

nice try, but I'm no going to bite

Crazy Ian · 9th March 2009, 7:13pm

The currently banded theory for the attack is retaliation for a confirmation special forces and special branch have been operating in Northern Ireland again. Either that or it's an attempt to get their voices heard, as they play no part in the current peace process.

As to how they got away.. British services operate under strict rules of engagement whilst guarding MOD property under which if the attackers couldn't legally be deemed a threat (i.e. they were escaping) then one cannot open fire. Paticularly if the situation is crowded and confused.

Still... the guy who saved the civillians life deserves merit if ever I saw it, I wonder how many people would think to do something as selfless as that?

**djtoast** · 9th March 2009, 8:06pm

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Originally Posted by Jaemi

In the sense that it's someone else's country...

There is the problem that for millenia, people went and grabbed land by one means or another, and if you want to roll back like ASDA borders to some historical point, when do you pick?

Who should control Gibraltar, or Cyprus, or the Malvinas, or Alaska?

Go back far enough and we'll have to live under Roman rule, and I'm not sure Berlusconi would be a good trade for Gordon Brown.

Westy · 9th March 2009, 11:05pm

Police officer shot in N.I tonight. Dunno if its in anyway related at this moment in time but I thought its worth a mention.

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A police officer has been taken to hospital following a shooting incident in Craigavon, County Armagh, police have said.

He has been taken to Craigavon Area Hospital, but there are no details about his condition.

It is understood that the attack happened in the Lismore area.

Hopefully its not another fatal shooting. If this is, there will be more outrage.

Westy · 9th March 2009, 11:11pm

Aye confirmed. Policeman shot dead.

Fucksake

Early reports on the police being lured into an ambush.

So much for it not kicking off eh?!

crazydiamond85 · 9th March 2009, 11:52pm

Still can't see it getting anywhere near as bad as during the troubles
The troubles will never come back properly for 1 simple reason. the war on terror

Westy · 9th March 2009, 11:57pm

You can never say never.

Theres been no murders by the RIRA in 12 years and now there is 2 (maybe 3) in the space of 48 hours. I'd say thats a cause for a huge worry.

If you think there won't be any fuck kicked up over this (if it is confirmed the RIRA is behind this), then you are very mistaken. Action will be taken and it could just be tit for tat all over again. Most likely not be by the British goverment either.

Thats a good question as well. Do the RIRA want the loyalists to retailate?