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24th June 2009, 1:36pm
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#46 | | LAST SONG KILL AUDIENCE
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| Re: Australians cook black people. Lulz? More to it, paki has racist associations from being used as a denigratory term for black people for centuries.
Scot is the word the Scottish people use to formally define their nationality. I know folk who get uppity if they're referred to as Scotch though. |
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24th June 2009, 1:37pm
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#47 | | Im yer da
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| Re: Australians cook black people. Lulz? Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkMono More to it, paki has racist associations from being used as a denigratory term for black people for centuries.
Scot is the word the Scottish people use to formally define their nationality. I know folk who get uppity if they're referred to as Scotch though. | thats cos there not a bottle of whiskey/kind of savoury egg
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24th June 2009, 1:43pm
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#48 | | LAST SONG KILL AUDIENCE
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| Re: Australians cook black people. Lulz? Though technically incorrect I accept it as an abbreviation of Scottish, at least to the extent that I don't get offended if people call me it.
My point is that the two abbreviations you listed (paki and scot) really aren't comparable in terms of offence. |
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24th June 2009, 1:45pm
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#49 | | Im yer da
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| Re: Australians cook black people. Lulz? nah i know but i wonder who decided that PAKI was such an offensieve word, its not like its a made up name, its shorten version of pakistan, and all the letters in paki appear as they would in pakistan, its not mixed about like gerries or scotch etc
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24th June 2009, 1:47pm
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| Re: Australians cook black people. Lulz? Perhaps it would be if people from Pakistan had been welcomed into our society with open arms and affectionately been referred to as our new Paki immigrants, but as it was/is, it originated as as a derogatory term and often coupled with "bastard" or "go home", and therefore continues to have highly charged and emotive connotations.
Also, it seems to be used to refer to anybody of South Asian descent, which is fairly offensive in itself. People who may or may not have ever been near the country of Pakistan will still be referred to as "Paki". I'm sure you adore being called English when you holiday aborad.
I dont know why I'm replying seriously, I can only assume that you are surely taking the piss.
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24th June 2009, 1:48pm
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#51 | | LAST SONG KILL AUDIENCE
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| Re: Australians cook black people. Lulz? Funnily enough, if people scream GO HOME YOU FUCKING PAKI'S for enough years then the word itself aquires an association with the customarily accompanying xenophobic ignorance. |
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24th June 2009, 1:49pm
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#52 | | Al Queda Pish
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| Re: Australians cook black people. Lulz? Is that the argument here? I knew I should've avoided this thread. In fact, I will.
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24th June 2009, 1:50pm
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#53 | | Im yer da
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| Re: Australians cook black people. Lulz? nah am not taking the piss, i know i normally do, but that subjects always had me thinking "who made that such an offensive thing to say"
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24th June 2009, 1:50pm
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#54 | | LAST SONG KILL AUDIENCE
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| Re: Australians cook black people. Lulz? Well you've now had it explained to you that it was the result of centuries of racism, not someone waking up one day and deciding that one particular abbreviation of a term should be considered offensive.
Get it?
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24th June 2009, 1:53pm
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#55 | | Al Queda Pish
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| Re: Australians cook black people. Lulz? Quote:
Originally Posted by crazydiamond85 who are we to say what people aon the other side of the world can and can't say?
I have family in oz and they also use wog on a damn near daily basis and I woulddn't think they were racist at all, there bare alot of words used in Scotland verey day by a great deal of people that could be seen as racist | Ah, so this is where the thread becomes... whatever it becomes. Thought as much.
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24th June 2009, 1:53pm
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#56 | | Im yer da
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| Re: Australians cook black people. Lulz? Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkMono Well you've now had it explained to you that it was the result of centuries of racism, not someone waking up one day and deciding that one particular abbreviation of a term should be considered offensive.
Get it?
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24th June 2009, 1:56pm
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#57 | | LAST SONG KILL AUDIENCE
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| Re: Australians cook black people. Lulz? I used to pretend to get offended when people didn't always address me by my full name, and then would irritatedly explain to them that in Holland it is customary to address everyone by their full title until you have had carnal relations with them.
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24th June 2009, 1:59pm
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#58 | | Al Queda Pish
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| Re: Australians cook black people. Lulz? Quote:
Originally Posted by mr sexual why is it ok for us to be refered to as a SCOT which is the start of SCOTLAND
but people from PAKISTAN cant be called a PAKI?
its really the exact same thing if you think about it.... | Jesus Fucking Christ.
Nowhere near the 'exact same thing', if you think about it. Quote:
Originally Posted by mr sexual nah am not taking the piss, i know i normally do, but that subjects always had me thinking "who made that such an offensive thing to say" | Those who used it in such a hateful way for centuries, is the answer to your question.
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25th June 2009, 12:12am
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| Re: Australians cook black people. Lulz? Wow thats some crazy shit. Poor dude. Hopefully he goes to a better place and can unleash his wrath. |
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25th June 2009, 6:16pm
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#60 | | ZOOP ZOOP ZOOP!
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| Re: Australians cook black people. Lulz? someone from scotland is a scot, someone from pakistan is a pakistani.
so wog's derogatory towards southern europeans so that's ok?
i get yer point tho.
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