Climate Camp Scotland is up & running

frosty · 5th August 2009, 11:34am

By Climate Camp Scotland,

Yes, the Camp for Climate Action in Scotland is up and running, and needs you to come as soon as you can!

We said that the camp would be somewhere in the Firth of Forth, but the recent occupation of a soon-to-be open cast coal site by the Mainshill Solidarity Camp has provided us with a beautiful site that is in need of support and solidarity from movements such as this one.

There is no shortage of targets in this area, we are surrounded by open cast coal mines and other infrastructure and within easy reach of targets across the central belt of Scotland.

At the moment Climate Camp is busy with people building compost loos, grey water systems, cooking food and getting to know the local community.

We need your help to defend the trees and stop this site being turned into an open cast coal mine and contributing to climate change!

How to get to the camp:

Nearest Train Station: Lanark

Call the Info number for help with travel and shuttles from Lanark train station!

07553215473
For more information go to: http://climatecampscotland.org.uk/

See you there!

Climate Camp Scotland.

Jaemi · 5th August 2009, 11:52am

Is there parking?

JZY · 5th August 2009, 12:24pm

Whats the nearest airport to it? i might fly in.

Jaemi · 5th August 2009, 12:25pm

I'm taking the Range Rover, I'll give you a lift.
You'll need to chip in for fuel but, it's a bastard with the petrol.

frosty · 5th August 2009, 1:20pm

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Originally Posted by Jaemi

I'm taking the Range Rover, I'll give you a lift.
You'll need to chip in for fuel but, it's a bastard with the petrol.

bio diesel?

Jaemi · 5th August 2009, 1:22pm

V8, supercharged, super unleaded Range Rover sport.

0x21 · 5th August 2009, 1:29pm

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Originally Posted by frosty

There is no shortage of targets in this area, we are surrounded by open cast coal mines and other infrastructure and within easy reach of targets across the central belt of Scotland.

Stay away from my Bentley.

pANDAS Radio · 5th August 2009, 1:38pm

Fuck the Climate Camp, bunch of arseholes. The very fact that they mention building compost loos in their statement shows that they're wankers, as if compost loos are going to become commonplace.

Also, at a time of recession they decide to set themselves up somewhere that is probably supposed to generate quite a few jobs. Aye, the site was always meant to be in Fife. Why? Because of it's high unemployment rates?

And the use of the word targets is more likely to alienate sensible people who may have supported their cause if it wasn't so lefty-bum-lick-feel-good-up-it's-own-arse. It's as laughably pretentious as Gorgeous George's Respect party. Trying to sort out Climate Change is a process, not a hippy movement. All these idiots have managed so far is to move themselves as far away as possible from being in a position to enter into any sensible debate about combatting the problem. Sure, they'll go after a small scale open cast mine. When have they ever tried to prevent the production of any of the thousands of cars that are made in this country?

frosty · 5th August 2009, 2:11pm

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Originally Posted by pANDAS Radio

Fuck the Climate Camp, bunch of arseholes. The very fact that they mention building compost loos in their statement shows that they're wankers, as if compost loos are going to become commonplace.

Also, at a time of recession they decide to set themselves up somewhere that is probably supposed to generate quite a few jobs. Aye, the site was always meant to be in Fife. Why? Because of it's high unemployment rates?

And the use of the word targets is more likely to alienate sensible people who may have supported their cause if it wasn't so lefty-bum-lick-feel-good-up-it's-own-arse. It's as laughably pretentious as Gorgeous George's Respect party. Trying to sort out Climate Change is a process, not a hippy movement. All these idiots have managed so far is to move themselves as far away as possible from being in a position to enter into any sensible debate about combatting the problem. Sure, they'll go after a small scale open cast mine. When have they ever tried to prevent the production of any of the thousands of cars that are made in this country?

ahem, none of the locals want it. they put it to vote in the town, 800 ppl live there, over 700 voted against. but it was ignored. 100 jobs will be created, none of which are local. the guy who owns the land is more bent than a round about, f.b.i after him for tax evasion. the whole thing stinks when you look into it.
As for the bunch of hippies, when I was last there I met many ppl. from all walks of lives. including ,any locals who now live on site.

bugpowderdust · 5th August 2009, 2:27pm

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Originally Posted by frosty

ahem, none of the locals want it. they put it to vote in the town, 800 ppl live there, over 700 voted against. but it was ignored. 100 jobs will be created

'Locals' never want anything to happen.

Find a way to focus your energies on promoting nuclear power and I'm with you.

*LesMTS* · 5th August 2009, 2:29pm

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Originally Posted by bugpowderdust

Find a way to focus your energies on promoting nuclear power and I'm with you.

It's the way to go, certainly.

0x21 · 5th August 2009, 2:39pm

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Originally Posted by frosty

As for the bunch of hippies, when I was last there I met many ppl. from all walks of lives. including ,any locals who now live on site.

Why would locals move out of their houses to live on a site nearby

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I'm not against this sort of thing per say, but the way its done is going to put more people against rather than for it.

And no local jobs at all? none? not even the tertiary jobs supporting the shipped in staff? Cleaning / caretaking staff, local shop staff etc spring to mind immediately but I'm sure there will be more. Then theres all the economy boost from providing the facilities and equipment. As Gill said below, I'm sure its probably greener mining the coal locally than importing it from another country.

pANDAS Radio · 5th August 2009, 2:39pm

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Originally Posted by frosty

ahem, none of the locals want it. they put it to vote in the town, 800 ppl live there, over 700 voted against. but it was ignored. 100 jobs will be created, none of which are local. the guy who owns the land is more bent than a round about, f.b.i after him for tax evasion. the whole thing stinks when you look into it.
As for the bunch of hippies, when I was last there I met many ppl. from all walks of lives. including ,any locals who now live on site.

Look, I've always wholeheartedly supported movements like the CND - though last time I was at the Faslane Peace Camp there were more posers there than you'd get at Milan Fashion Week.

And what is the point of a site occupation? It is one of the least successful forms of protest, and one which does result in regular people being less supportive of whatever cause it is in aid of. And don't patronise me with an "ahem" because you know absolutely fuck all about me, my background or any causes I have been active in. You say that none of the 100 jobs are local, totally avoiding the fact that it's 100 jobs - at a time when most people are fighting to keep theirs.

Fair enough, coal is an almost outdated form of fuel, but it's still in use. If there wasn't a UK supply then the people needing the coal would still be able to get it at a slightly higher price abroad, and they would. Denying the supply of coal from the arse-end of Fife won't make the potential purchaser start using another form of fuel, only legislation would do that. Take a drive along the Welsh coast and you'll see many signs of an existing coal industry.

Where the Peace Camp has been right, Climate Camps tend to be misguided. The necessary changes won't be made in a muddy field, they'll be made in Parliament. How about the fishing industry? It gets hardly any hassle about the fuel it uses, despite the fact you can go to any harbour and see the pools of oil and diesel. While these fuel sources are in heavy use it would be better trying to push through legislation aimed at helping people find a better alternative, not using outdated (largely inadequate) methods to try and stop 0.00000001% of worldwide production.

Showing that you want change is not the same as showing how change can be achieved.

metallideth · 5th August 2009, 3:51pm

"Job's a job" argument is a bit tenuous, I'm sure you don't need anyone to point out that just because something pays the bills it doesn't mean it's right. And I imagine Scottish Coal are more interested in potential profits than worker empowerment at this stage.

That said, 'climate camps' are hardly a groundswell of genuine revolution either. Lifestyle anarchism can fuck off.

PAPA LAZEROU · 5th August 2009, 4:30pm

I WANT CHANGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have a tenner...can anyone split it for a fiver and 5 nuggets?

As for 'climate camps'.......get a wash, get a job, get a shave and a haircut and stop hugging fucking trees. I may be a bit daft but i do know that eating quorn burgers and sitting around in a stinking field singing 'kumbayah' aint gonna solve shit brahh!!!

Ps......i have a fuck-load of polystyrene blocks and polythene sheeting that you guys can use to start a fire at your 'hippy camp' if you need it....