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Old 12th October 2009, 4:41pm   #16
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Re: [I know very little about] Politics

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They didn't "cheat" cash from the system though. Almost all of the "scandal" was within the rules, there was no fraud involved (except, I think, in one case).
I still think that paying someone about 60 grand for doing their job and then saying 'yeah ya can claim for a 50" telly and whatever else ya fancy and the public purse pays for it' is a bit fuckin shit. There are poeple in their constituencies that cant even afford to buy shoes for their kids never mind a lovely big flatscreen tellyvisual.

If the MPs were in it for making the country great and making sure everyone was taken care of, why is the country virtually screwed? Why are there people living in utter squalor?? Why dont the nurses/NHS staff get the cash they deserve for a job no one wants to do??? Why dont they tackle the gangs of feroux neds kicking about the street making peoples lives a misery and fucking wrecking the place??? Why do people feel big Goggsy Broons banger in their arse every time the put diesel/petrol in their car but other countries dont get cash-raped like we do??? Why did they allow the spanner-headed bankers to do whatever the fuck they liked then bail them out when they say...oops, we fucked up...we have lost everyones cash(but the banks can still afford to pay these wallopers massive bonuses the likes only lottery winners could imagine)

They are souless money0grabbing bastards that do not care one iota for the general unwashed public(they are all unwashed cos nocunt can even afford a bar of soap these days..........well maybe not...but we cant be far from it now.)

MPs aint in it for us...they are in it for their own greedy selves im afraid.
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Re: [I know very little about] Politics

Fuck off out my thread with yer wall of text and angry stoner rhetoric, papa laxative.

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They didn't "cheat" cash from the system though. Almost all of the "scandal" was within the rules, there was no fraud involved (except, I think, in one case).

And then big LesMTS has to ruin it by quoting.


More on topic, I find generally that I don't vote at all, half through ignorance and the other from not wanting to throw my vote at a party whose policies i don't agree with completely.
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Old 12th October 2009, 5:16pm   #19
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Fuck off out my thread with yer wall of text and angry stoner rhetoric, papa laxative.

Cheers Jenny, I'll read those sites!
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And then big LesMTS has to ruin it by quoting.


More on topic, I find generally that I don't vote at all, half through ignorance and the other from not wanting to throw my vote at a party whose policies i don't agree with completely.
Aww Brian....do my post give ya the rage THAT much you have to have me on block?

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Re: [I know very little about] Politics

In a nutshell:

Tories - Scum
Everyone else - not quite as bad.
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I still think that paying someone about 60 grand for doing their job and then saying 'yeah ya can claim for a 50" telly and whatever else ya fancy and the public purse pays for it' is a bit fuckin shit. There are poeple in their constituencies that cant even afford to buy shoes for their kids never mind a lovely big flatscreen tellyvisual.

If the MPs were in it for making the country great and making sure everyone was taken care of, why is the country virtually screwed? Why are there people living in utter squalor?? Why dont the nurses/NHS staff get the cash they deserve for a job no one wants to do??? Why dont they tackle the gangs of feroux neds kicking about the street making peoples lives a misery and fucking wrecking the place??? Why do people feel big Goggsy Broons banger in their arse every time the put diesel/petrol in their car but other countries dont get cash-raped like we do??? Why did they allow the spanner-headed bankers to do whatever the fuck they liked then bail them out when they say...oops, we fucked up...we have lost everyones cash(but the banks can still afford to pay these wallopers massive bonuses the likes only lottery winners could imagine)

They are souless money0grabbing bastards that do not care one iota for the general unwashed public(they are all unwashed cos nocunt can even afford a bar of soap these days..........well maybe not...but we cant be far from it now.)

MPs aint in it for us...they are in it for their own greedy selves im afraid.
Don't mind me, I'm just further ruining this thread for Brian.

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not wanting to throw my vote at a party whose policies i don't agree with completely.
You understand why this is really stupid, right?
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Old 12th October 2009, 5:20pm   #22
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Don't mind me, I'm just further ruining this thread for Brian.

You understand why this is really stupid, right?
hahhahaaha yer a bad lad!!!!!

Tbh i dont think ill be voting at this one...voted every single time i could before but i dont agree with any of them(the parties). They all spout the same old tired policies and try to score points off each other to make theirselves look better. Here, ya ever watched what goes on in parliment? Its fuckin worse than the slagging matches in here and they expect us to vote for them?
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Westy nailed it.
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Tories - Scum
Everyone else - not quite as bad.

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Re: [I know very little about] Politics

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Totally. It's only really the last couple of years I've taken any interest in reading political stories at all, it was jsut one of these things that never entered into my mind to bother about for most of my life living out in the middle of filed land, then when I started paying some attention it all seemed a bit dauntingly complex to be able to get involved in.
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Re: [I know very little about] Politics

It disgusts me how much the govermnent pay for ridiculous structures to talk shite in when there are thousands of disused warehouses and listed buildings falling to ruins they could have refurbished and used for the same purpose. How the hell are we supposed to trust people who get private education and get paid so much when they become MPs and still screw it up?

I think we should scrap the government as it stands all together, and let regular people who actually work for a living and care about their community, represent people from their social demographic and everyone come to an agreement over policies etc. Obviously nothing ludicrous like having a "ned party" and "guys who have yachts party", meet in the middle.
A pretty naive idea but the actual reality is even more batshit crazy/ terrifying.
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Re: [I know very little about] Politics

Hi Pete.

Think as has been said earlier best place to start is with some current affairs in the news.

I'm going to go with BBC news here, as it's really concise bits of news which is good for keeping up to date through the day:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/default.stm

Top stories are all about the expenses scandal, which tbh isn't the most gripping now (in my opinion, anyway). I'm more interested in policy stuff.

The BBC is also decent and summarising key events to give quick background:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8298432.stm

Nick Robinson also does a blog which is good even if you don't always agree, reading peoples opinions or analysis of a situation can be pretty informative.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/nickrobinson/

At the weekend I normally buy the Guardian.
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Re: [I know very little about] Politics

what does left and right mean? in general?

i know why they are known as that, as back in the day the tories sat on the left, and the whigs on the right(or vice versa), but what does it mean in todays terms?
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Re: [I know very little about] Politics

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Traditionally, the Left includes: social liberals, social democrats, socialists, communists and anarchists[2][3][4][5] while the Right includes: conservatives, fascists, reactionaries, monarchists and nationalists.[6] The classification of capitalism as right-wing or left-wing varies from country to country.[7][citation needed]
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