Memory implants and similar - Page 2

**Ghostsuit** · 28th December 2008, 8:07pm

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Originally Posted by Taizéan

Apparantly it will only be five years before you can buy yourself a memory chip to put in your head. These chips will allow you to "remember" ten times as much information.

What do you guys think about that? Personally I don't care about its benefits. Chip and Neuron don't go together in my book.

All the poking fun at this aside. It would be a bloody cool thing if it does happen, course I'd prefer some sort of language chip.

Dec · 28th December 2008, 8:32pm

Tomorrows World ahoy.

I'd like a chip to forget things plz.

**Ghostsuit** · 28th December 2008, 8:54pm

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Originally Posted by Dec

Tomorrows World ahoy.

I'd like a chip to forget things plz.

Is there not a joint or some pills that will solve that issue?

Dec · 28th December 2008, 8:56pm

Well, if you insist Forbes.

/Dec parties

MarkMono · 28th December 2008, 8:57pm

Nah, they just enable to me to understand advanced physics. Useless.

Goth_pixie · 28th December 2008, 9:22pm

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Originally Posted by Ghostsuit

It would be a bloody cool thing if it does happen

Coolness and ethical issues about it are made slightly less relevant, though, by the fact that it's not going to happen any time soon.

Rio Ohki · 28th December 2008, 9:30pm

I like chips, but now I'm hungry.

MarkMono · 28th December 2008, 9:33pm

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Originally Posted by LesMTS

We don't even know how biological memory works at a physical level.

We're about as likely to work out how to generate black holes with our minds in five years.

Taizéan · 28th December 2008, 11:38pm

http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/32230/113/
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003...ucation.health

**Ghostsuit** · 28th December 2008, 11:40pm

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Originally Posted by MarkMono

Nah, they just enable to me to understand advanced physics. Useless.

But not write proper sentences in English it seems.

**Ghostsuit** · 28th December 2008, 11:49pm

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it does raise ethical problems. "If someone can't form new memories, then to what extent can they give consent to have this implant?" asked Joel Anderson, a bioethics expert at Washington University in St Louis, Missouri.

I'm not sure what's unethical about this, the can't form new memory's but they they will have stored memory's currently or does no hippocampus prevent decision making. I suppose they won't have a memory of giving permission though.

MarkMono · 29th December 2008, 12:01am

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Originally Posted by Ghostsuit

But not to write proper sentences in English, it seems.

Fixed, stones, glass houses.

*LesMTS* · 29th December 2008, 12:01am

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Originally Posted by Taizéan

http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/32230/113/
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003...ucation.health

This is very, very, very speculative stuff.
It's from something some scientists (the group is legit and respectable it seems) said they were going to do in 2003, and not much has been said about it since, as far as I can see. It's a fair, if very 'shot in the dark', hypothesis: the hippocampus seems to be heavy involved in memory, we've no idea why or how, but if we make a crude model of it and wire it into the brain it may do something.
But these stories are largely meat free. Unpublished speculation. Filler.
We won't be seeing memory boosting implants in five, ten, fifteen or twenty years.
It reminds me of that ridiculous story about 'dream recorders' that broke last month.
Remember, most mainstream media is inept at reporting science news.
Regarding ethics, too much wine to think about it, but first thoughts are it would be just another prosthetic.

Goth_pixie · 29th December 2008, 12:20am

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Originally Posted by Ghostsuit

I'm not sure what's unethical about this, the can't form new memory's but they they will have stored memory's currently or does no hippocampus prevent decision making. I suppose they won't have a memory of giving permission though.

Consent is a very important aspect of medicine and medical treatment, and a key part of it is that the patient must be able to remember making the decision. The Adults with Incapacity Act would come into play for some people with anterograde amnesia, but when you're talking about a new, experimental procedure, ethics are especially important and the AWIA may well not provide enough coverage in these situations.

If you're interested I can PM you some links for further reading.

cowgirl · 4th January 2009, 8:10pm

its an interesting idea, I did a lot of work on computer-brain interfacing with regards to muscle stimulation for those with nerve injuries etc. Its all good the idea of having a memory chip in yer napper, but could you not just write it down to save having your head cut open? Im sure it could have its uses if it were to be perfected.