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16th May 2008, 10:01pm
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| Re: Zenit St. Petersburg Vs Rangers (UEFA Cup Final)
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Originally Posted by EvilElvis  A lad I know posted this on another forum | Totally agree with everything that person posted. Quote:
Originally Posted by metallideth Worst sentiment is that anyone causing violence/trouble is somehow 'less' of a supporter of the club, as if only the considerate and thoughtful members of the population at large have ever attached themselves 'properly' to any particular team. |
I think the point that is being made is that these animals are not representative of the Rangers support.
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16th May 2008, 10:03pm
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#512 | | Loa Of Death
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| Re: Zenit St. Petersburg Vs Rangers (UEFA Cup Final)
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Originally Posted by metallideth Worst sentiment is that anyone causing violence/trouble is somehow 'less' of a supporter of the club, as if only the considerate and thoughtful members of the population at large have ever attached themselves 'properly' to any particular team. | Similar to the sentiment that anyone causing violence/trouble is automatically considered to be representative of the club. Equally vapid points. Quote:
Originally Posted by Rosco Totally agree with everything that person posted. | Even the bit I mentioned in a previous post?
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16th May 2008, 10:04pm
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| Re: Zenit St. Petersburg Vs Rangers (UEFA Cup Final)
Yeah even that bit. It sounds a bit shite but it's true. If that game was somewhere that cost £300 on a flight then the ned/scum element would've been reduced significantly. I'm not talking about people who are decent but tight for cash but the real neddy scum. | |
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16th May 2008, 10:09pm
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#514 | | Loa Of Death
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| Re: Zenit St. Petersburg Vs Rangers (UEFA Cup Final)
Sorry, but I can't buy into that. Working class/lower income does not automatically equate to ned/scum behaviour. A guy I know was sat next to the corporate section and insists they were by far the worst behaved inside the ground (kicking over tables, falling around pished, etc).
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16th May 2008, 10:11pm
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| Re: Zenit St. Petersburg Vs Rangers (UEFA Cup Final)
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Originally Posted by Rosco Totally agree with everything that person posted.
I think the point that is being made is that these animals are not representative of the Rangers support. | Why not? | |
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| Re: Zenit St. Petersburg Vs Rangers (UEFA Cup Final)
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Originally Posted by Rosco My thinking exactly, the guy's probably got bigger fish to fry at the moment  | On a Friday? | |
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| Re: Zenit St. Petersburg Vs Rangers (UEFA Cup Final)
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Originally Posted by Baron Samedi Sorry, but I can't buy into that. Working class/lower income does not automatically equate to ned/scum behaviour. A guy I know was sat next to the corporate section and insists they were by far the worst behaved inside the ground (kicking over tables, falling around pished, etc). | and one cliche is met with another...
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16th May 2008, 10:12pm
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#518 | | Loa Of Death
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| Re: Zenit St. Petersburg Vs Rangers (UEFA Cup Final)
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Originally Posted by endless psych and one cliche is met with another... | How so?
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16th May 2008, 10:13pm
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| Re: Zenit St. Petersburg Vs Rangers (UEFA Cup Final)
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Originally Posted by Baron Samedi Sorry, but I can't buy into that. Working class/lower income does not automatically equate to ned/scum behaviour. A guy I know was sat next to the corporate section and insists they were by far the worst behaved inside the ground (kicking over tables, falling around pished, etc). | Agree-dom. | |
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16th May 2008, 10:15pm
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| Re: Zenit St. Petersburg Vs Rangers (UEFA Cup Final)
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Originally Posted by Baron Samedi How so? | On the one hand you have the cliche the working classes are at fault and on the other the upper classes are at fault or at least equally at fault.
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16th May 2008, 10:16pm
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| Re: Zenit St. Petersburg Vs Rangers (UEFA Cup Final)
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16th May 2008, 10:17pm
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| Re: Zenit St. Petersburg Vs Rangers (UEFA Cup Final)
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Originally Posted by Rosco I think the point that is being made is that these animals are not representative of the Rangers support. | They're not necessarily 'representative' of the majority of the support, of course, but mind that a football support is not necessarily a homogenous mass. People have different ideas of why they support a certain club, and may behave differently when out and about supporting their club; there's no ratio that states 'good behaviour' moves consistently with 'true support'. These folk are as much Rangers supporters as you are.
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16th May 2008, 10:19pm
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#523 | | Loa Of Death
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| Re: Zenit St. Petersburg Vs Rangers (UEFA Cup Final)
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Originally Posted by endless psych On the one hand you have the cliche the working classes are at fault and on the other the upper classes are at fault or at least equally at fault. | When have middle-and-upwards class people ever been cliched as being troublemakers in general?
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| Re: Zenit St. Petersburg Vs Rangers (UEFA Cup Final)
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Originally Posted by Baron Samedi When have middle-and-upwards class people ever been cliched as being troublemakers in general? | Germany 1942 | |
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16th May 2008, 10:24pm
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| Re: Zenit St. Petersburg Vs Rangers (UEFA Cup Final)
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Originally Posted by Baron Samedi When have middle-and-upwards class people ever been cliched as being troublemakers in general? | I'm fairly sure the idea that folks with money can misbehave and get away with it is a well worn cliche. Particularly when the working class oiks can be blamed...
The middle classes less so.
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