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18th May 2008, 12:24pm
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#586 | | Troll Banned
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| Re: Zenit St. Petersburg Vs Rangers (UEFA Cup Final)
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18th May 2008, 12:26pm
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#587 | | Pariah Carey
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| Re: Zenit St. Petersburg Vs Rangers (UEFA Cup Final)
It's not about getting 'pissed up and mental', it's about the 'beliefs' these arseholes have. The chants have to go. The mindset has to go. The booze exacerbates it, but that's not the catalyst, far from it.
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18th May 2008, 12:27pm
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#588 | | Changed Man V4
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| Re: Zenit St. Petersburg Vs Rangers (UEFA Cup Final)
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18th May 2008, 12:27pm
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#589 | | Let's Pray I'll Be Ok!
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| Re: Zenit St. Petersburg Vs Rangers (UEFA Cup Final)
These people would still hold these beliefs without Rangers.
It's something about Rangers that attracts them and I'm willing to bet that Orange Strips and the like do nothing to keep them away.
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18th May 2008, 12:46pm
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#590 | | Better not to err
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| Re: Zenit St. Petersburg Vs Rangers (UEFA Cup Final)
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Originally Posted by Syxx It's not about getting 'pissed up and mental', it's about the 'beliefs' these arseholes have. The chants have to go. The mindset has to go. The booze exacerbates it, but that's not the catalyst, far from it. | A license to drink & shout mob-handed, virtually anonymous in a sea of similarly coloured strips is going to be a temptation for any agitator. The mindset of 'friendly' rivalry also seems to include dislike and abuse. You can say that its all in fun and thats cool, but it obviously isn't for everyone.
Given that the majority of Scotland is subject to localised intolerance and small-minded bigotry, I find it hard to believe that football only brings out the best in the majority of people.
You want the mindset to change? Treat any opposing teams and fans with camaraderie and repect.
Don't see it happening. The line between friendly rivalry and sectarian discrimination is invisible to most. | 
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18th May 2008, 12:48pm
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#591 | | Whoa Black Jesus
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| Re: Zenit St. Petersburg Vs Rangers (UEFA Cup Final)
For sectarian discrimination read anti-catholicism in Scotland. | |
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18th May 2008, 12:48pm
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#592 | | Troll Banned
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Anyone see the that the guy being attacked by the police dog is a convicted murderer? | |
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18th May 2008, 12:49pm
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#593 | | Pariah Carey
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| Re: Zenit St. Petersburg Vs Rangers (UEFA Cup Final)
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Originally Posted by MarkMono A license to drink & shout mob-handed, virtually anonymous in a sea of similarly coloured strips is going to be a temptation for any agitator. The mindset of 'friendly' rivalry also seems to include dislike and abuse. You can say that its all in fun and thats cool, but it obviously isn't for everyone.
Given that the majority of Scotland is subject to localised intolerance and small-minded bigotry, I find it hard to believe that football only brings out the best in the majority of people.
You want the mindset to change? Treat any opposing teams and fans with camaraderie and repect.
Don't see it happening. The line between friendly rivalry and sectarian discrimination is invisible to most. | I'm not too sure what you're getting at, myself and the vast majority around me treated the Russians with respect, camaraderie and goodwill before, during and after the game. It's the "fuck the pope, fenian blood, UDF" shit that's the problem, and they'd chant that whether they had a beer in their hand or not.
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Originally Posted by addy Whatever happened to the idea of them integrating with our culture? You come here, you respect our customs. You dont like it, you fuck right off back where you came from | | |
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18th May 2008, 12:50pm
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#594 | | Troll Banned
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| Re: Zenit St. Petersburg Vs Rangers (UEFA Cup Final)
You can't do the red hand salute if yer hawding a beer though. | |
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18th May 2008, 12:54pm
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#595 | | Better not to err
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| Re: Zenit St. Petersburg Vs Rangers (UEFA Cup Final)
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Originally Posted by Zippy For sectarian discrimination read anti-catholicism in Scotland. | About as relevant to the game as Islamaphobia I suppose.
I have never seen anyone fighting over genuine religious differences.
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Originally Posted by Syxx It's the "fuck the pope, fenian blood, UDF" shit that's the problem | Surely that falls under "Treating any opposing teams with camaraderie and respect." no?
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18th May 2008, 12:54pm
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#596 | | Whoa Black Jesus
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| Re: Zenit St. Petersburg Vs Rangers (UEFA Cup Final)
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Originally Posted by MarkMono About as relevant to the game as Islamaphobia I suppose.
I have never seen anyone fighting over genuine religious differences.
Ever. | Aye, not genuine or well thought out religious differences anyway. Most of it seems to be because they think that's how they should act towards the other faith/side. | |
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18th May 2008, 12:55pm
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#597 | | Troll Banned
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Not with yer own eyes, but it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. | |
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18th May 2008, 12:55pm
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#598 | | Pariah Carey
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| Re: Zenit St. Petersburg Vs Rangers (UEFA Cup Final)
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Surely that falls under "Treating any opposing teams with camaraderie and respect." no?
| Celtic weren't our opponents. These cunts will chant that shit at every game, and once again, they will not need a drink in them to feel brave enough to do it.
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Originally Posted by addy Whatever happened to the idea of them integrating with our culture? You come here, you respect our customs. You dont like it, you fuck right off back where you came from | | |
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18th May 2008, 12:58pm
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#599 | | Better not to err
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| Re: Zenit St. Petersburg Vs Rangers (UEFA Cup Final)
Any opposing teams, not necessarily your opposition that day. Sorry if I was unclear. Quote:
Originally Posted by AWESOMEUS MAXIMUS Not with yer own eyes, but it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. | Thats a given. It makes it a damn sight less likely in my eyes though. | |
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18th May 2008, 1:03pm
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#600 | | Experimental stooge
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Originally Posted by Zippy For sectarian discrimination read anti-catholicism in Scotland. | Predominantly a concern for the fifities or the West of Scotland.
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