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Originally Posted by ¡Punk!  If you go to a game in Italy that "illusion" of achievement from the fans would be shot down. The head ultras don't watch the game but conduct the crowd because they know that a crowd makes a difference. You, as a musician, should know that. |
A) Thanks for arguing and proving my point. The reason its hidden and has a notation to the effect that it would automatically be argued if raised is that I think its a purely black and white issue. You either agree that its illusory or you don't. Not much grounds for debate.
B) The crowd doesn't alway make a difference when you're playing. Sometimes they don't even exist to me. I don't even think being a musician and being a footballer are comparable.
Being a footballer is far more like being a ballet dancer in terms of performance and audience interaction.
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Originally Posted by ¡Punk! Of all the violence in the city centre how much is based on football? How much is over a spilt pint, a girl or just a guy looking for a ruck? How much of it is between people drinking? Face it of all the things that cause violence in the city centre I would say football is down on the list. |
I agree, I just don't think its very far down the list. Doesn't mean I like football any more or less, but it does tend to lower my opinion of supporters.
