Why is it? - Page 7

¡Punk! · 16th May 2008, 8:24am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghostsuit

Yeah but why does that passion errupt into violence so much when it comes to Football? Maybe I've just not noticed it but I've not seen the same amount in Cricket or Rugby.

So much? Seriously where are we getting this from? For a start we'll point out that the majority of football supporters are working class and that's not the case for cricket or rugby. Generally working class people are more likely to be inclined to violence for a number of social and economic reasons we all know. So perhaps the question could be "why do working class people only equate passion with violence?". It's too easy to see guys with beer bellies, topless, singing songs and swilling lager and assume it's got violent undertones but how many times HAVE you seen these guys get violent? Or do you see them and fear the worst rather than go by your own experiences? As pointed out Rugby games can get violent in Australia and Cricket can get violent in the sub-continent, even Polo's had riots in Argentina. Any sport where a disgruntled working class get that passionate about it will be more violent than the more hoity toity sports around it and it's wrong to compare them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kenny Everett

I'd love to know where all the "violence" is coming from.

I've been to thousands of football matches and never seen a fight. Just because some arseholes get caught on TV do ing it doesn't mean it's a giant problem that happens every week.

More antisocial behaviour is caused by drink and drugs in your average town centre, I don't see what football has got to do with violence in particular.

I've seen far more fights over women than football. Should we have a go at them?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Largest of Als

If you're saying that you've never had a higher high, or a lower low, than watching a game of football has given you.. then I think thats really sad..

Al

Eight months a season lasts. 36 games, home and away, travelling the country in the hope that something can be achieved as a group and a community. From getting home at 0200 from Dingwall to standing in the pissing rain for two hours in Methil and it all leads up to the final ten minutes in a game against Peterhead and you score? Tell me there's not more joy, relief and excitement in that moment than anything else you are ever likely to do in your life.

Quote:

Originally Posted by UncleDave

Enjoy it as much as you want. Just dont pretend watching football is any more or any less important than any other form of entertainment.

Cheers.

As above. Spend thousands of pounds to complete GTA4, only be allowed to do one mission a week, make it that you have to get on a bus at 10 in the morning with 50 other GTA fans who sing and clap and drink the whole way in excitement only to lose the level and have to travel four hours home in total silence as everyone's so gutted or go up against one of the world's GTA players with no hope of victory and come away with a cheeky win that you could only have dreamed of then tell me it's just the same as any other form of entertainment.

AWESOMEUS MAXIMUS · 16th May 2008, 8:48am

The bottom line here is anyone that's posted that doesn't at least follow football semi-religiously hasn't grasped it.

You won't know unless yer involved.
Punk makes some good posts.
Now send me some St Hellier Blueberry cider.

Jushin Liger · 16th May 2008, 8:49am

It's the same as any other sport. Except more popular.

poprock · 16th May 2008, 8:50am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jushin Liger

It's the same as any other sport.

No, I think being far and away the most popular in our culture makes it unavoidably different. Because it’s so widespread, football fandom affects people who aren’t involved themselves. Most other sports don’t.

---------

Out of interest: How many people who follow football ‘semi-religiously’ were brought up that way? Going to the game (or watching it on telly) with your Dad, and so on?

Stew · 16th May 2008, 8:52am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rosco

Jesus, this thread is shite. Basically people who don't understand football pointing out that they don't understand football, IN THE FOOTBALL FORUM.

It's all because the ignore forum option isn't working at the moment. Once the add-on gets installed and they go back to not seeing the threads the current fashion to slag the football forum will pass.

As someone mentioned though, I'd love to see stats to check the activity on the football sub-forum compared to other areas of the site though.

poprock · 16th May 2008, 8:54am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stew

It's all because the ignore forum option isn't working at the moment. Once the add-on gets installed and they go back to not seeing the threads the current fashion to slag the football forum will pass.

Spot on, apart from the bit about there being a fad of slagging the footy forum. It’s just this one thread as far as I can see.

Stew · 16th May 2008, 8:57am

Quote:

Originally Posted by poprock

Spot on, apart from the bit about there being a fad of slagging the footy forum. It’s just this one thread as far as I can see.

I've noticed it popping up in other threads recently that people are taking pot-shots at the football area for causing trouble, that it should be removed, that all that religious nonsense has nothing to do with it and so on. It's getting rather irksome to be entirely honest and the sooner the plug-in for people who don't understand it to block it, the better. It's not that prevalent, but it's noticeable if it annoys you.

On thinking about it I've seen days where I've logged in here and five or six of the threads on new posts will be football forum threads, though, it's the only reason I asked about activity. I'd hazard a guess at this area being more active than maybe 90-95% of the other areas aside from maybe Junk Talk, General Chat and Music at a push. (By post-count and views.)

poprock · 16th May 2008, 9:01am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stew

I've noticed it popping up in other threads recently that people are taking pot-shots at the football area for causing trouble …

To play Devil’s advocate, that could be because there have been a lot of reported posts from the football forum recently.

Forbes did try to do something to help by asking for volunteers to be a local mod for the place, because he realises that it can’t be a good idea having folk who don’t give a shit about the sport moderating it.

Jushin Liger · 16th May 2008, 9:04am

Quote:

Originally Posted by poprock

No, I think being far and away the most popular in our culture makes it unavoidably different. Because it’s so widespread, football fandom affects people who aren’t involved themselves. Most other sports don’t.

I'd disagree.

It happens on a much larger scale with football but there are still people just as passionate about rugby who don't play the game. I play rugby at a competitive level but there are people who care far more about how Scotland play or who's going to sign for Glasgow who have never picked up a ball since they were at school.

In MMA/Boxing there are loads of people that are experts on the sport in terms of stats and history that devoutly upport certain fighters but they've never thrown a punch.

True most other sports don't have anything like the cultural impact of football, the only one I can think of that's even close is boxing, but it doesn't change football as being a comparable form of enetertainment to any other sport.