Hibernian - Con-artists? - Page 4

chris420uk · 1st July 2009, 12:12pm

"Hibs Rod Petrie did his reputation as being the best negotiator in the business no harm at all yesterday when Steven Fletcher became the latest multi-million pound sale from a club who looked every inch their mid-table status last season.

Fletcher is a robust and skilful 22-year-old but with only 52 goals from 190 appearances he still has a lot of development ahead of him."

Again... Hibs management prove their business acumen. Superb deal.

chris420uk · 1st July 2009, 12:38pm

I mean, Scottish football could take note of the grass-root developments of Dutch football.
Hence why they produce good talent. They're clubs are also better quality I feel.
With the top 4 clubs competing for the title.

Sure, has it's down-points but could still learn lessons.

Timmy · 1st July 2009, 1:11pm

We tried taking our developments from the swedes... worked out well, shit football and a split.

Way-heh!

Jaemi · 1st July 2009, 1:27pm

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Originally Posted by chris420uk

I mean, Scottish football could take note of the grass-root developments of Dutch football.
Hence why they produce good talent. They're clubs are also better quality I feel.
With the top 4 clubs competing for the title.

Sure, has it's down-points but could still learn lessons.

Dutch football is a different culture. You'd need every team in the land adopting that approach (an entirely different approach) at the same time, for it to be worth doing. Even then it would take years to filter through.

You can't just say "do it the dutch way", it doesn't really work like that.

Timmy · 1st July 2009, 1:30pm

We'd need to counter-act the binge drinking culture of scotland before it worked too. Can't see the SFA having the pull to do that.

Jaemi · 1st July 2009, 1:39pm

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We'd need to counter-act the binge drinking culture of scotland before it worked too. Can't see the SFA having the pull to do that.

I'm not sure if that's to blame.
There are plenty of other countries that have bigger problems than "binge drinking" producing good young talent.

It's certainly a culture thing but I think "binge drinking" and the lack of football talent come from the same place..Too big a discussion for me to bother with while I'm scranning a danish.

But this idea of "we should learn from the dutch" gets banded about every so often, that would take 10years minimum to impliment and would need every single soccer school/team in the country jumping on board and changing everything.

XMachina · 1st July 2009, 2:29pm

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Originally Posted by Jaemi

It's certainly a culture thing but I think "binge drinking" and the lack of football talent come from the same place..Too big a discussion for me to bother with while I'm scranning a danish..

Binge drinking's neither here nor there. Holland have a much better diet, a better attitude towards taking responsibility for your own health and fitness and most importantly around double the level of sporting participation per head of population that Scotland have.

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But this idea of "we should learn from the dutch" gets banded about every so often, that would take 10years minimum to impliment and would need every single soccer school/team in the country jumping on board and changing everything.

Totally. I don't foresee any Scottish teams going down the road that Ajax did of a residential academy for their youngsters which meets their educational and academic requirements, to say nothing about Dutch immigration rules are different from ours so they can bring in more non EU players than Scottish clubs can.

chris420uk · 1st July 2009, 2:35pm

I don't like the pessimism...

Sure it may take 10/15/20 years. If we adopt a new approach at grass roots level across the country in schools and local clubs... if the Government provide more pitches and some more funding... it's very realistic.

Binge drinking get's blamed a lot and I know a few good players who didn't make it due to hitting the booze and drugs... basically enjoying teenage life.

However if the schools and authorities start setting a good example then hopefully a kids social life will take back-seat to a promising football career.

Tbh, this opens up a greater discussion... Scottish culture as a whole should adopt a different culture... and this is already widely recognized.

I've got it!!

We need more brothel-laden cities like Amsterdam.

After you've spent £50 on a hooker you've got no money to booze!
Keeps you fit too... :P

XMachina · 1st July 2009, 2:51pm

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Originally Posted by chris420uk

Binge drinking get's blamed a lot and I know a few good players who didn't make it due to hitting the booze and drugs... basically enjoying teenage life.

However if the schools and authorities start setting a good example then hopefully a kids social life will take back-seat to a promising football career.

Bullshit. It's not the authorities job to keep players off the drugs; that's the players' responsibility. They're best learning from day 1 that they're responsible for what substances they take.

chris420uk · 1st July 2009, 3:17pm

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Bullshit. It's not the authorities job to keep players off the drugs; that's the players' responsibility. They're best learning from day 1 that they're responsible for what substances they take.

We're not talking about substance abuse here Machine...
therefore kindly do not go off-topic

The authorities should encourage youngsters to play and dedicate themselves to football.

Drug abuse... is the responsibility of the players and their parents to deal with.

AWESOMEUS MAXIMUS · 1st July 2009, 4:00pm

Conman at it again...selling shite for £millions.
Could sell shamrocks to the irish.

Pish player, pish team, more money for monopoly man.

XMachina · 1st July 2009, 4:02pm

There's a willing buyer and every chairman in the country would do exactly the same as Petrie.

AWESOMEUS MAXIMUS · 1st July 2009, 4:05pm

In Scotland, aye.
There are teams that want to keep their good players and try and finish higher in the league though.

He's a cunt. Everything I hate about Modern football.

XMachina · 1st July 2009, 4:08pm

I know what you mean. How dare he get top dollar for his prize assets and not sell the player to aleague rival for less money than he actually got for him. The cheek.

¡Punk! · 1st July 2009, 11:49pm

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Originally Posted by AWESOMEUS MAXIMUS

In Scotland, aye.
There are teams that want to keep their good players and try and finish higher in the league though.

He's a cunt. Everything I hate about Modern football.

Like Rangers? Punting Boumsong, Cuellar and Hutton for the right cash? Like Celtic who don't spend any money so they can hang on to .... well... I'm sure someone somewhere will finally bid for a Celtic player.

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