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Old 4th November 2009, 7:22pm   #136
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Re: Rangers heading to administration?

aye but rangers are pretty well known and pretty much guarunteed a shot at the champions league every year, reguardless or not if some big richbastard is a "fan" they'll just man city it.

rangers will get "man citied" before they ever have to go into administration.
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Old 4th November 2009, 7:23pm   #137
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aye but rangers are pretty well known and pretty much guarunteed a shot at the champions league every year, reguardless or not if some big richbastard is a "fan" they'll just man city it.

rangers will get "man citied" before they ever have to go into administration.
Are you being serious?
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Old 4th November 2009, 7:25pm   #138
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Re: Rangers heading to administration?

So you think theres absolutely no chance some rich cunt will bail them out?
isnt that how football finance works...

notice "them" not "us

mon the 'well.
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Old 4th November 2009, 7:27pm   #139
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Re: Rangers heading to administration?

I'd imagine a group of people will do it, not just one person as its too much of a risk. The tags are magic.
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Old 4th November 2009, 7:38pm   #140
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i dont like the way that my team are now being used as an adjective
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Old 4th November 2009, 8:06pm   #141
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Im not saying the banks SHOULDNT want their cash back....if any of you read my posts properly you would see what im talking about.....typical smell-shit fans....half o them cant even read right ....nah i love you guys really..................
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Old 4th November 2009, 10:35pm   #142
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aye but rangers are pretty well known and pretty much guarunteed a shot at the champions league every year, reguardless or not if some big richbastard is a "fan" they'll just man city it.

rangers will get "man citied" before they ever have to go into administration.
No such person exists.
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Old 4th November 2009, 10:48pm   #143
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LTSB aren't likely to force the sale of too many players surely, considering the impact that would have on the ability to make money over the next year or so.

Yes selling players brings in instant revenue and savings but then you run the risk of not qualifying for Champions League and the windfall that comes with it and fan disillusionment leading to lower crowds and fewer gate receipts.

They may not be football people but they are business people.
You're thinking too far ahead.
Lloyds want the debt paid, Rangers owe them somewhere in the region of £40Million quid.
The only interest Lloyds have is seeing some of that money returned. Either by David Murray selling the club to someone with the means to pay it, or by selling assets.
Lloyds aren't in it for the long term, they're not hanging on till next season, next year, next champions league.

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Rangers have a bigger support in the uk than celtic for example, but celtic have a global brand, just coz the irish like to pump and travel. Rangers dont really have a worldwide fanbase. plus its nothing compared to Man untd and barca.
Aye, a former Rangers director has said as much. It was in the Herald last week..

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There was talk in the papers the other day about Rangers fans closing down their Lloyds TSB accounts(personal and business accounts). I for one would take every single penny out of LTSB if they did asset strip the club(and thats a fair amount of cash).

Interesting to see that the banks are in line for another pile of cash(around 5 billion this time i think) from the taxpayer again, but only as long as they stop bonuses for people earning over about 40 grand a year. Fucking shocking that the very people that are bailing the banks out with their tax money are the ones that the bank will be fucking over by all but destroying one of the biggest clubs in the world.

It wont come to that though i think....the club is FAR too big to be ripped apart by a buncch of fucking bank-wanks......someone will come in with the cash needed. Sorry state of affairs tho.....'oh we(the wank-banks_are fuckin skint again....give us more money please....ta very much...now, lets fuckin RUIN Glasgow Rangers as they owe £30 million and we just got billions'......just doesnt add up to me.
More shite from you..
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Re: Rangers heading to administration?

Papa has been amazing / indecipherable in this thread.
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Old 5th November 2009, 9:25am   #145
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Re: Rangers heading to administration?

PAPA LAZEROU total LOLZ at your posts.

If the bank owe money to the tax payer do you not think they should be doing their best to get that back?
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Old 5th November 2009, 10:23am   #146
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So you think theres absolutely no chance some rich cunt will bail them out?
isnt that how football finance works...
Nobody's saying there's zero chance of it but it's not like an Abramovich or Glazer will 'live the dream' in the SPL when there's premiership teams available for not much more the Rangers and generate in TV money alone what Rangers make in a season. If some philanthropist does appear it'll most likely be a Dave King type rich Rangers supporter; someone making a sentimental investment rather than a business one.
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Old 5th November 2009, 11:25am   #147
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Re: Rangers heading to administration?

Aye.
There's pretty much 0 chance of any profitable return from an investment in Rangers.
At the time Fergus McCann took over Celtic, they were a club on the verge of going bust but they had plenty of potential.
Rangers don't really have the same scope for potential imo.
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Old 5th November 2009, 5:58pm   #148
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PAPA LAZEROU total LOLZ at your posts.

If the bank owe money to the tax payer do you not think they should be doing their best to get that back?
OF COURSE they will be doing their (ahem) 'best' to pay us back......but do you honestly think we will see a thin penny of it? OF COURSE NOT!!!! Any cash they pay back will go straight into the governments pocket, and be invested in the next stupid war over oil (probably with Iran). 'course, they wont spend ANY of that cash on making sure that the troops that get sent to fight have the proper equipment or making sure that nurses and firemen get the pay they deserve or making sure that schools have decent resources to teach kids properly or getting more cops on the street to tackle the out of control thuggery that is happening every day on every street........and all the time the government will hike up taxes(to help balance the billions they gave to the wanker banks) whilst also hiking up diesel and petrol duty to give them more of our cash to fritter away.

I actually believe that none of you people (the usual idiots that fire abuse at me any time i post about anything) can actually read properly. You all seem to think i said that its unfair that Rangers have to pay back the 30 or 40 million they owe to the banks.........get it right spanners.....i said its a bit shite...NOT its unfair and Rangers shouldnt have to pay it back, they should pay it all back but at a rate that doesnt put the club out of business. I know there are more than a few tadgers on here that would LOVE to see Rangers go bust, remember though......no Rangers means no Old Firm games.....do you honestly think that ANY tv company will pay even half of what sky and espn are paying the SPL right now if there are no old firm games???? No, of course they wont....no tv company would touch the SPL games with the proverbial barge-pole without Celtic v Rangers games.......any of you fuckin diddies think it wont affect Celtic big time are living in a wee green and white hooped fantasy land!!!!!!

The point i was TRYING to make was the banks have had ANOTHER multi-billion backhander from the government.......then they say 'Rangers, we want our £40 million back or we will asset strip the club to fuck all....even though we have been handed BILLIONS from the people who attend the games and the people who work for Rangers'.........THAT, to me, is a bit shite...NOT UNFAIR!


Im gonna save you clows some time here.......


ANy posts replying to this will consist of.........

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'Course....i will take as much notice of that as i take of the people on here..............thats zero!!!!!

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Re: Rangers heading to administration?

if you took some notice of what people were saying you might just understand the point they're making.

no one here is trying to victimise you. a conversation usually consists of a statement and a retort, you seem to think all these retorts are aimed at you in a negative manner rather than actually trying to draw you into an adult conversation on your viewpoints.




you complain on one had that the banks need a handout. this i can understand. they're asking for tax money to hold up their company due to badly investing "our" money in the first place.

you also complain that the club you love is in trouble, this too i can understand. emotional attachments are hard to break, and you're never going to look at it from a buisness point of view.

but can you honestly fail to see, the bank asking for the money back from Rangers isn't a vendetta against the club, or it's fans. it's the bank looking to regain some of the money people owe to it. i'm sure there are 100's of buisnesses across the UK in a similar boat, just none with as public a following.
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OF COURSE they will be doing their (ahem) 'best' to pay us back......but do you honestly think we will see a thin penny of it? OF COURSE NOT!!!! Any cash they pay back will go straight into the governments pocket, and be invested in the next stupid war over oil (probably with Iran). 'course, they wont spend ANY of that cash on making sure that the troops that get sent to fight have the proper equipment or making sure that nurses and firemen get the pay they deserve or making sure that schools have decent resources to teach kids properly or getting more cops on the street to tackle the out of control thuggery that is happening every day on every street........and all the time the government will hike up taxes(to help balance the billions they gave to the wanker banks) whilst also hiking up diesel and petrol duty to give them more of our cash to fritter away.

I actually believe that none of you people (the usual idiots that fire abuse at me any time i post about anything) can actually read properly. You all seem to think i said that its unfair that Rangers have to pay back the 30 or 40 million they owe to the banks.........get it right spanners.....i said its a bit shite...NOT its unfair and Rangers shouldnt have to pay it back, they should pay it all back but at a rate that doesnt put the club out of business. I know there are more than a few tadgers on here that would LOVE to see Rangers go bust, remember though......no Rangers means no Old Firm games.....do you honestly think that ANY tv company will pay even half of what sky and espn are paying the SPL right now if there are no old firm games???? No, of course they wont....no tv company would touch the SPL games with the proverbial barge-pole without Celtic v Rangers games.......any of you fuckin diddies think it wont affect Celtic big time are living in a wee green and white hooped fantasy land!!!!!!

The point i was TRYING to make was the banks have had ANOTHER multi-billion backhander from the government.......then they say 'Rangers, we want our £40 million back or we will asset strip the club to fuck all....even though we have been handed BILLIONS from the people who attend the games and the people who work for Rangers'.........THAT, to me, is a bit shite...NOT UNFAIR!


Im gonna save you clows some time here.......


ANy posts replying to this will consist of.........

Idiot
Fucking idiot
etc etc..........

'Course....i will take as much notice of that as i take of the people on here..............thats zero!!!!!

worst user of 2009 btw. No-one has said they want rangers to go bust and everyones agreed that would be bad for the SPL, the goverment could use you for one of those ads to prove a link between smoking weed and paranoia. What do the bank care if rangers go bust, why should they care they just want their money back.
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