Fw 2007 - Page 2

MCAC · 4th June 2007, 11:24am

Yespeople i can envision it just now. One night of Freshers week, 5 different student DJs representing electro/house/breaks/Dubstep/DnB. With some good slot time, totally rinsing out the freshers. Giving them variation and a night that they thought would be impossible in the union! Gu will get smoked. I can seek out the desired DJs, who wants it?

**djtoast** · 4th June 2007, 12:33pm

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Originally Posted by MCAC

Yespeople i can envision it just now. One night of Freshers week, 5 different student DJs representing electro/house/breaks/Dubstep/DnB. With some good slot time, totally rinsing out the freshers. Giving them variation and a night that they thought would be impossible in the union! Gu will get smoked. I can seek out the desired DJs, who wants it?

I understand that your thoughts are well-meaning, but history suggests you're overconfident.

Put simply, the more marginal the music, the fewer people attend, right? Hence why the sub club is 1/3 the size of the QM, and Soundhaus is smaller still. This isn't because it hasn't occurred to Tony and Bruno that if they had bigger premises they could make more money, it's because their programming is designed to reflect their size of venue and vice versa.

Cool but up-and-coming bands play in Tuts while George Michael plays at Hampden. You just can't argue sensibly against that, it's the basis on which all successful venues and promoters operate. Now, Qudos holds ~1200 people; the food factory and Jim's Bar ~400 each.

Now what proportion of freshers do we think have any interest in the kind of specialist night you describe? And bear in mind, even of those that think it sounds interesting, many will be handed a flyer by someone at the GUU which says "foam party tonight in The Hive" , and freshers being freshers, will think "which am I most likely to get laid at?" - and the answer to that is pretty clear. Even you agree look:

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Originally Posted by MCAC

First cheesy since we've came back bound to be full of talent

What existing nights are there in Glasgow along the lines you describe; how successful are they; what sorta demographic are their punters drawn from...? The closest thing I've been at recently that's in any way comparable was the last time Plus One from the Scratch Perverts played in Glasgow. It was a small venue, and even then it wasn't anywhere near full, and it certainly wasn't 17/18 year olds who were there. And he's an internationally famous DMC world mixing championship winner; who did you have in mind?

I absolutely agree that the QM should be doing more marginal things as parts of its ents program. And it broke my heart when the plan to do up Jim's Bar in a way that would mean it could be used as a second, smaller club venue was rejected, cause Qudos and even the Food Factory are just too big to give these kinda nights a fighting chance.

But at any rate, Freshers' Week is simply not the time to do this kind of thing; we have as responsibility to entertain as many of the freshers as we can as much of the time as we can, and whether you like it or not, 3500 of them want to get pissed and dance to The Proclaimers, making pandering to the maybe 35 people who want to dance to dubstep a very misguided idea.

I hate sounding negative but it's HARD putting on successful ents, and at this time of year it's really important not to get it wrong!

One further point: I've heard DJs talk about what in their view the QM "should" be doing many times. If you're really so confident in the success of such a night, why don't you promote one? If you think you can put on DJs that will pull a bit of a crowd, there's plenty of venues in Glasgow to try taht'd be an easier bet than the QM I think.

JeanieStar · 2nd August 2007, 11:37pm

Just a quick question....

Can non-freshers and non Glasgow Uni students go to Freshers events?!?

Thanks

the curiousity · 2nd August 2007, 11:49pm

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Originally Posted by JeanieStar

Just a quick question....

Can non-freshers and non Glasgow Uni students go to Freshers events?!?

Thanks

IF the venue is not packed*, then yes, yes you can. but you need to pay, probably a bit more than you would normally to get in.

*when i say packed, i mean, breaking fire safety regulations packed, and in both unions, that's pretty packed..

JeanieStar · 3rd August 2007, 9:21am

Thanks...

I'll just keep an eye on when the tickets are due to go on sale for the particular gig that I want to go to.

Asked the band themselves but they thought that because it was for Freshers Week that we wouldn't be able to go.

A friend was going to take me to Colin Murray when we were second years (which now I'm going into 4th year makes me feel so old! Haha) so I figured we'd be able to.

**djtoast** · 3rd August 2007, 9:32am

In previous years each union has had two (alternating) nights that in theory were exclusively for freshers, and the other two nights were open to non-freshers; I'm not sure if that's gonna be the case again this year but if so it may be tricky. But if you know a band who's playing you can probably swing guesties, no?

ally.h · 3rd August 2007, 10:00am

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Originally Posted by the curiousity

IF the venue is not packed*, then yes, yes you can.

This is not necessarily true. The QM's policy for this freshers week as yet has not, as far as i know, been decided.

al.

f_holliman · 10th August 2007, 8:49pm

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Originally Posted by JeanieStar

Just a quick question....

Can non-freshers and non Glasgow Uni students go to Freshers events?!?

Thanks

If non-freshers were allowed into the building, then we couldn't call it Freshers' Week, it would just be called "week".

In responce to your question: not if I have anything to do with it. Freshers' Week is for Freshers.

MCAC · 10th August 2007, 11:55pm

I dont agree with that. I thnk all years, especially second should be allowed into freshers week. Why not? Most people, in my experiance, didnt get the most out of their 1st year freshers week, they should be allowed to take in the acts and mingle with the freshers.

Also what if you have mates, or in my case, a little cousin coming up next year, you want to take him out on freshers week and show him the ropes.

AND i wanted to rep QM at freshers week, but before i got on the thread the date for helpers forms were closed.

the curiousity · 11th August 2007, 8:54am

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Originally Posted by ally.h

This is not necessarily true. The QM's policy for this freshers week as yet has not, as far as i know, been decided.

al.

sorry, i forget it has to go through a committee now. it was FW policy a while ago though, i'm pretty sure..

not that it matters to me really, i'm going to be too busy patching things from wherever we'll be broadcasting that night to even think about it.

So guys, when's crush making it's re-launch?

Jon Ashley · 11th August 2007, 8:10pm

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Originally Posted by the curiousity

So guys, when's crush making it's re-launch?

It's not unfortunately.

ally.h · 11th August 2007, 11:36pm

i have a crush cd. if anyone wants to provide a flat we could have a crush revival party!!

al.

Jon Ashley · 12th August 2007, 12:32pm

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Originally Posted by f_holliman

If non-freshers were allowed into the building, then we couldn't call it Freshers' Week, it would just be called "week".

In responce to your question: not if I have anything to do with it. Freshers' Week is for Freshers.

I also disagree with that.

I've made it very clear that I think Rev and Cheesy should allow the non-freshers' in. After all, we should reward them for their loyalty do you not think?

Anyway, I don't have a say, but that's what I think.

**djtoast** · 12th August 2007, 12:46pm

Quite apart from anything else, it potentially costs us potentially thousands and thousands of pounds not to let non-freshers in.

The year that the SRC fucked up selling FW passes, both Rev and CP were pretty quiet in FW, and yet there were cretins from the SRC standing at the front doors saying "no, despite the fact there's room for 600 more people in the building, and a big queue of people who want to come in, you can't possibly let non-freshers in, we wrote it down on a bit of paper during a meeting so we have to stick to that" which makes precisely no sense at all. And this just after the SRC's financial incompetence cost both unions half their block grant; "great, let's turn them around and shaft them from the other side" was presumably their reasoning.

Yes, obviously we should guarentee that anyone who paid for a FW pass can get entry to the Unions, which is surely the only sane argument for restricting access to the buildings... anything else is commercial idiocy.