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2nd April 2008, 11:22am
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#1 | | Captain Editor Moderator
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| Daily Telegraph: 'Moral Majority Against Video Games' What is it with video games and ill-informed press coverage at the moment? There really seems to be a lot of it about - a lot more then I remember there being a few years ago. Quote:
The report issued last week by Dr Tanya Byron on the effects of violent computer games upon young people was a typical well-meaning New Labour project: it made decent recommendations of dubious effectiveness. Dr Byron, a former television psychologist with experience of troubled children, said games should be rated by the user's age, and urged fines, even jail, for those selling them to underage children.
Dr Byron seems a sensible woman, and no doubt she has done her best to contain the spread of some of the more obnoxious material on offer without incurring the ire of the games lobby. But one of her remarks in an interview last week struck me as particularly, and depressingly, modern. "My review is not about making any kind of moral pronouncements," she said, "although I do think that it is important to look at the desensitisation to violence."
The f-word might be everywhere now, from playgrounds to the titles of BBC documentaries, but it's the m-word that can render people really twitchy. Opinion-formers will squirm to avoid an argument that is seen to be based on moral considerations: they will grope instead for the comfort-blanket of scientific data, and "pragmatic approaches", and "natural concerns".
The word "moral" still has deeply unfashionable associations with Mary Whitehouse, and the "moral majority" protesting against the "tide of filth" in books and television in the US. How tame and inoffensive that tide looks now.
Yet the truth, surely, is that the majority of us would indeed recoil from the idea that our teenage son or daughter was upstairs playing Manhunt 2, a recently licensed game in which the protagonist, an escaper from an experimental asylum, tortures and murders other players in the most graphic ways.
It might well be true, as we are so often told, that most children who immerse themselves daily in violent video games will not go on to commit real murder. For that, I suppose, we must all be grateful.
But the instinctive objection remains, and it is indeed rooted in morality: the sense that it is wrong for anyone, child or adult, to spend long hours electronically rehearsing the prolonged agony and detailed humiliation of other human beings for their own amusement. It is insidiously corrupting to their view of themselves and other people.
No one is saying that all video games are damaging, even if they depict fighting. I am not under the illusion that we can, or should, attempt to confine older children to a play world made up entirely of group hugs and communal co-operation. A significant vogue in video-games, however, is to put the player not in the role of a character who combats wrongdoing, but of the wrongdoers themselves: the mass murderer, the torturer, the street thug, drug dealer or pimp.
The selection of protagonist is no doubt ironic, with these strutting miscreants representing the fantasies of nerdy little middle-class boys, but when one considers the prevalence of gangs, drug dealers and teenage violence on the streets the irony doesn't seem quite so amusing.
The authorities have found themselves powerless to oppose the nastiest examples of such "entertainment". Consider Manhunt 2, a game so repellent that the British Board of Film Classifications sought to ban it. The BBFC is certainly no bastion of old-fashioned censorship -the Guardian recently said it was more like a "progressive young uncle" than a "strict matron".
But even the progressive young uncle was shocked by Manhunt 2. David Cooke, the BBFC's director, banned the game for its "unrelenting focus on stalking and brutal slaying", adding that it was distinguished by its encouragement of "sustained and cumulative casual sadism". The fact that, in America, the makers cut a castration-with-pliers scene for its Wii version gives you some idea of its content.
The BBFC's ruling was repeatedly overturned by the Video Appeals Committee, and the game was licensed for sale in Britain this month. It has an "18" certificate, but it would only require an 18-year-old player with younger siblings to leave it lying around at home, for it to be freely available to underage players.
This is a curious country, in which it is socially acceptable to be outraged by bottled water and plastic bags, but embarrassingly de trop to get worked up about sickening depictions of violence as entertainment.
Perhaps if more people, including teenagers, were prepared to voice moral objections to this toxic stuff, it would no longer be possible to lampoon them for caring.
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I'm particularly amused by the last two paragraphs. Most the young people I know who do let their moral opinions be known are either involved in political activism or quite religious, and in neither circumstances have a problem with video games of a violent nature. It's nice to see teenagers have a better grasp of reality then a middle aged journalist.
I'm quite glad that it's rehashing the Manhunt controversy though. GTAIV was passed uncensored by the BBFC (Maybe the whole Manhunt thing was engineered by Rockstar to see just what they could get away with in GTA?) the other day, and given it's unreleased status, could have made a great target for the conservative hyperbole.
The Daily Hate Mail was having a go last week as well: link
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2nd April 2008, 11:32am
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#2 | | I hate your band SuperMod
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| Re: Daily Telegraph: 'Moral Majority Against Video Games' Aren’t we past this yet, as a society?
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2nd April 2008, 11:35am
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#3 | | Was Stuck in '92, Got out
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| Re: Daily Telegraph: 'Moral Majority Against Video Games' The other night on Five news - Natasha Kaplinsky (yeah... i know) made the radical suggestion that they should maybe they should start putting film style age certificates on games! I honestly thought i had been transported back to 1993.
This report along with the whole 'Mass effect' thing a few months back has got me more pissed of at poor research in the media than anything concerning international politics or economics ever could.
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2nd April 2008, 11:37am
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#4 | | Captain Editor Moderator
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| Re: Daily Telegraph: 'Moral Majority Against Video Games' Quote:
Originally Posted by Sgt Craig The other night on Five news - Natasha Kaplinsky (yeah... i know) made the radical suggestion that they should maybe they should start putting film style age certificates on games! I honestly thought i had been transported back to 1993. |  |
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2nd April 2008, 2:49pm
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#5 | | Captain Editor Moderator
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| Re: Daily Telegraph: 'Moral Majority Against Video Games' Apparently 'A National Newspaper' is willing to pay for your tales of video game violence: http://www.starnow.co.uk/Jobs-Auditi...ies_wanted.htm
Via Joystiq |
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2nd April 2008, 2:51pm
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#6 | | I hate your band SuperMod
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| Re: Daily Telegraph: 'Moral Majority Against Video Games' “I was losing badly at Tekken and threw the controller at my friend. He caught cancer and is dead.”
Gimme my £500.
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2nd April 2008, 3:00pm
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#7 | | is Elseworlds
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| Re: Daily Telegraph: 'Moral Majority Against Video Games' My uncle once battered a cat after playing Ico.
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2nd April 2008, 3:03pm
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#8 | | Caissa's DeathAngel
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| Re: Daily Telegraph: 'Moral Majority Against Video Games' Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammer | It does happen already though, you sometimes see games which legally can't be sold to people under a certain age, hell it's stopped me getting games before in my yoof (either that or it was just every shop in the town refused to sell me it).
Incidentally Manhunt 2 was unbanned recently - "surprisingly" this wasn't headline news!
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2nd April 2008, 3:05pm
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| Re: Daily Telegraph: 'Moral Majority Against Video Games' Quote:
Originally Posted by Addy It does happen already though, you sometimes see games which legally can't be sold to people under a certain age, hell it's stopped me getting games before in my yoof (either that or it was just every shop in the town refused to sell me it). | I know that. Hence my use of the 'disbelief' smiley. |
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2nd April 2008, 3:09pm
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#10 | | Caissa's DeathAngel
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| Re: Daily Telegraph: 'Moral Majority Against Video Games' Ah, oops
Insane that she could be that ignorant yet think herself fit to comment on the matter.
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7th April 2008, 2:16pm
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| Re: Daily Telegraph: 'Moral Majority Against Video Games' Meh. Let the high and mighty keep their opinions.
Give them a fancy title like DR, MP or Lord and bugger me, they know it all.
another case of some misinformed do gooder on a power trip.
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7th April 2008, 2:25pm
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#12 | | EVIL/NICE.
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| Re: Daily Telegraph: 'Moral Majority Against Video Games' Lets copy the Columbine game, but change the setting to the Daily Heil offices, that'll give them something to start a moral witchhunt about.
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