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Old 13th February 2007, 9:00pm   #1
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I like this guys thinking....

To those of you not familiar with Joe Arpaio, he is the Maricopa County Sheriff and he keeps getting re-elected over and over again.

http://www.mcso.org/

These are some of the reasons why:

Sheriff Joe Arpaio created the "tent city jail" to save Arizona from spending tens of million of dollars on another expensive prison complex.

He has jail meals down to 40 cents a serving and charges the inmates for them.

He banned smoking and porno magazines in the jails, and took away their weightlifting equipment and cut off all but "G" movies. He says: "they're in jail to pay a debt to society not to build muscles so they can assault innocent people when they leave."

He started chain gangs to use the inmates to do free work on county and city projects and save taxpayer's money.

Then he started chain gangs for women so he wouldn't get sued for discrimination.

He took away cable TV until he found out there was a federal court order that required cable TV for jails. So he hooked up the cable TV again but only allows the Disney channel and the weather channel.

When asked why the weather channel he replied: "so these morons will know how hot it's gonna be while they are working on my chain gangs."

He cut off coffee because it has zero nutritional value and is therefore a waste of taxpayers money. When the inmates complained, he told them, "This isn't the Ritz/Carlton. If you don't like it, don't come back."

He also bought the Newt Gingrich lecture series on US history that he pipes into the jails. When asked by a reporter if he had any lecture series by a Democrat, he replied that a democratic lecture series that actually tells the truth for a change would be welcome and that it might even explain why 95% of the inmates were in his jails in the first place.

With temperatures being even hotter than usual in Phoenix (116 degrees just set a new record for June 2nd), the Associated Press reports: About 2,000 inmates living in a barbed- wire-surrounded tent encampment at the Maricopa County Jail have been given permission to strip down to their government-issued pink boxer shorts.

On Wednesday, hundreds of men wearing pink boxer shorts were chatting in the tents, where temperatures reached 128 degrees. "This is hell. It feels like we live in a furnace," said Ernesto Gonzales, an inmate for 2 years with 10 more to go. "It's inhumane."

Joe Arpaio, who makes his prisoners wear pink, and eat bologna sandwiches, is not one bit sympathetic. "Criminals should be punished for their crimes - not live in luxury until it's time for parole, only to go out and commit more crimes so they can come back in to live on taxpayers money and enjoy things many taxpayers can't afford to have for themselves."

Wednesday he told all the inmates who were complaining of the heat in the tents: "It's between 120 to 130 degrees in Iraq and our soldiers are living in tents too, and they have to walk all day in the sun, wearing full battle gear and get shot at, and they have not committed any crimes, so shut your damned mouths!"

Way to go, Sheriff! If all prisons were like yours there would be a lot less crime and we would not be in the current position of running out of prison spaces.
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Old 13th February 2007, 9:08pm   #2
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And is there any evidence that this reduces re-offending rates?
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Old 13th February 2007, 9:09pm   #3
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Re: I like this guys thinking....

I love that guy.

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Old 13th February 2007, 9:09pm   #4
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Re: I like this guys thinking....

damn right, I'd vote for him if I lived there

granted the heat would never be the same, but some of the same harsh treatments would be great over here
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Re: I like this guys thinking....

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And is there any evidence that this reduces re-offending rates?
not trying to start a big arguement/debate here, but in all honesty imo even if its having little effect to the re-offending rate, I still think its great, if you get sent to Jail its cause you violated someone elses rights, that does not entitle them to a cushty life sitting back watching the telly and getting food and drink others scrimp and scrape to put on the table
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Re: I like this guys thinking....

America fights "terror" around the world to bring Human Rights and the dignity of the individual to the world becaue they have no want of it for themselves?
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Old 13th February 2007, 9:13pm   #7
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Re: I like this guys thinking....

There's a certain level on which I agree with most of this.
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Old 13th February 2007, 9:14pm   #8
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Re: I like this guys thinking....

I think his methods are awesome whether it cuts down on re-offending or not.Prison isn't supposed to be like a weekend at Butlins.
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Re: I like this guys thinking....

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if you get sent to Jail its cause you violated someone elses rights,
Or maybe you're a 17-year-old kid busted for having a bit of pot in your car. The mandatory minimum sentences in some states are insane, and about a third of prisoners are in for relatively minor drug offenses.
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Re: I like this guys thinking....

He's getting hired to run the jails in Scapegoatia.

Unless his methods somehow increase re-offence levels, I see no problem with them whatsoever, and think all his points are good.
The prisoners are still being given more comfortable accomodation than many people who haven't felt the need to resort to crime are stuck with.
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He's getting hired to run the jails in Scapegoatia.

Unless his methods somehow increase re-offence levels, I see no problem with them whatsoever, and think all his points are good.
The prisoners are still being given more comfortable accomodation than many people who haven't felt the need to resort to crime are stuck with.
Why is he showing Newt Gingrich history videos?
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Why is he showing Newt Gingrich history videos?
Because 'criminals need punished', and I can think of few punishments worse than having to listen to Newt Gingrich.
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To those of you not familiar with Joe Arpaio, he is the Maricopa County Sheriff and he keeps getting re-elected over and over again.

http://www.mcso.org/

These are some of the reasons why:

Sheriff Joe Arpaio created the "tent city jail" to save Arizona from spending tens of million of dollars on another expensive prison complex.
Agree.

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He has jail meals down to 40 cents a serving and charges the inmates for them.
Agree - on the basis that "Paying off the debt. to society" shouldn't incur a debt. to society.

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He banned smoking and porno magazines in the jails, and took away their weightlifting equipment and cut off all but "G" movies. He says: "they're in jail to pay a debt to society not to build muscles so they can assault innocent people when they leave."
Disagree.

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He started chain gangs to use the inmates to do free work on county and city projects and save taxpayer's money.
Disagree. It would be better these jobs went to folk who needed them and could be paid for them.

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Then he started chain gangs for women so he wouldn't get sued for discrimination.
Agree - if your going to have chain gangs it should at least be for both genders.

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He took away cable TV until he found out there was a federal court order that required cable TV for jails. So he hooked up the cable TV again but only allows the Disney channel and the weather channel.

When asked why the weather channel he replied: "so these morons will know how hot it's gonna be while they are working on my chain gangs."
Agree.

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He cut off coffee because it has zero nutritional value and is therefore a waste of taxpayers money. When the inmates complained, he told them, "This isn't the Ritz/Carlton. If you don't like it, don't come back."
Agree.

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He also bought the Newt Gingrich lecture series on US history that he pipes into the jails. When asked by a reporter if he had any lecture series by a Democrat, he replied that a democratic lecture series that actually tells the truth for a change would be welcome and that it might even explain why 95% of the inmates were in his jails in the first place.


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Way to go, Sheriff! If all prisons were like yours there would be a lot less crime and we would not be in the current position of running out of prison spaces.
To recycle an age old debate - yes its obviously because prison is too easy that people commit crimes...
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Old 3rd July 2007, 9:56pm   #14
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Re: I like this guys thinking....

TV show about to start on Five US about Sheriff Joe Arpaio

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DOCUMENTARY: The Toughest Sheriff in America
Time: 23:00 to 00:00 (1 hour long)

Hard-hitting documentary about Sheriff Joseph Arpaio of Maricopa County, Arizona, whose extremely tough stance on crime has caused controversy in the US. Inmates in his prisons are served a meagre two meals a day and have to work in chain gangs, a form of punishment which has long been done away with in the US. The inmates are also subjected to rough treatment by guards and are made to wear pink underwear to humiliate them. The documentary takes a look at the effects of the sheriff's campaign.
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Re: I like this guys thinking....

Yeah this guy sounds like he's got the right idea!
I agree with pretty much all the points raised, is this TV show airing in the UK?
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