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Old 2nd October 2008, 10:42pm   #1
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If a pill could be given...

...that would make someone absolutely happy with slavery and happy with a life of servitude, more happy even than their master would be through having a servant, would it be okay to feed someone such a pill and make them a slave?
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Re: If a pill could be given...

It'd make being employed in a call centre tollerable thing, that's for sure.
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Old 2nd October 2008, 11:07pm   #3
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Re: If a pill could be given...

Why should happiness be touted as the 'be all and end all' of humanity's ultimate goals? Fuck 'em, I say. There's something extremely disconcerting about goofy smirking dopes who are irrepresible happy and intensely satisfied with everything.
Urgh, urgh, urgh. Horrid.
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...that would make someone absolutely happy with slavery and happy with a life of servitude, more happy even than their master would be through having a servant, would it be okay to feed someone such a pill and make them a slave?
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Re: If a pill could be given...

When you say 'pill', you mean Es, right?
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...that would make someone absolutely happy with slavery and happy with a life of servitude, more happy even than their master would be through having a servant, would it be okay to feed someone such a pill and make them a slave?
No need for a pill, just a little bit of programming...

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Why not?
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...that would make someone absolutely happy with slavery and happy with a life of servitude, more happy even than their master would be through having a servant, would it be okay to feed someone such a pill and make them a slave?
I'd say it all depends on the actual treatment of the slaves than the effects of the pill itself.
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Re: If a pill could be given...

Because it's humiliating, takes away dignity and the right to earn for yourself and your family.

whether the person is aware of it or not is irrelevant. If you're going down that route, why not make mentally disabled women prositutes? THEY WON'T KNOW.
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I'd say it all depends on the actual treatment of the slaves than the effects of the pill itself.
You're missing the point of the exercise.
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I'd say it all depends on the actual treatment of the slaves than the effects of the pill itself.
Why? They'd be happy about their treatment regardless.
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You're missing the point of the exercise.
Care to clarify the point then? I mean does this pill take away all their senses apart from the desire to work? Or does it allow them to still feel emotions like other people while removing their sense of dignity?

I could see the use of such a pill in enforcing ideas like community service.
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Because it's humiliating
In what way is it humiliating for them, if they don't feel humiliated by it?
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Re: If a pill could be given...

Just so you know, I don't actually think this a good thing to do.
I read a variation of it in a list of supposably unanswerable moral and philosophical questions, and found it interesting.
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Care to clarify the point then? I mean does this pill take away all their senses apart from the desire to work? Or does it allow them to still feel emotions like other people while removing their sense of dignity?
The question he's asking extends to a wider point-- is it okay for people to be subjected to situations which are detrimental to them, even if they themselves can be conditioned to not be emotionally bothered by it?

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Fucking hell.
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