[Misc] Women in the Media - Survey

[pANDAS Radio]

Given that at least half a dozen men will have taken this survey, won't that kinda fuck up the results?

[djtoast]

i did a course on "brecht and feminist theatre"

which, even if i were an opposite person of the contradictory gender*, would be too specific to stand me in any helpful stead i expect. good luck however finding suitable wimminfolk.

*basil fawlty's description of a woman

[Witch]

Ive done one too, i know bobzilla's wife is a feminist, maybe give him a shout, see if she's willing to help out?

[wee scary burd]

Done. Never bought any of these magazines in my puff.

[Runt]

Originally Posted by Witch

Ive done one too, i know bobzilla's wife is a feminist, maybe give him a shout, see if she's willing to help out?

Ahahaha, I realise now that you only meant that because he's still on the forum but on first reading - hilarious.

[broken]

Originally Posted by pANDAS Radio

Given that at least half a dozen men will have taken this survey, won't that kinda fuck up the results?

Yeah, it would, but I didn't actually think anyone would purposely try to fuck my results. Pehaps niaive of me.

It's for Sociology. If anyone has any further comments they wish to air here, all input is welcome. I'll try to get a list of general areas for some questions, but as I said, most questions will be probably be int he same vein as those included in the survey so any iput without my semi-guidlines would be great.

Thanks for the help everyone

[Bunnylingus]

Aww cool, I did sociology to honours so I'll look at the questions (get my lenses tonight so should be tomorrow) and if I've got anything that might help you out I'll give you a shout.

[lirazel]

done

Originally Posted by broken

stereotypically feminist

that's a fairly problematic concept, no? feminism not being a monolith and all that. do you mean someone who knows their stuff, or who subscribes to radical feminism, or who has specific views on specific issues? just curious.

also, is "well represented" intended to denote positive representation or in terms of degrees of visibility?

[Tacky]

Done - far from feminist, more of a nosy bugger/tad voyeuristic. Yes, i like the pretty pictures and the vulgar things that can be seen!

[Runt]

Originally Posted by Tacky

Done - far from feminist, more of a nosy bugger/tad voyeuristic. Yes, i like the pretty pictures and the vulgar things that can be seen!

I don't understand how any intelligent female can claim that they're 'far from feminist' - I don't wander around declaring myself as a feminist because it's not 'all' that I am but I certainly wouldn't/couldn't deny it.
Don't you think that women deserve the right to work and vote, to independence and ownership, equal rights, equal pay etc?

[endless psych]

I reckon that you can quite happily want all of the above without having to label yourself a feminist. For instance I prefer to label myself an equalitist. Primarily because it is a term which has yet to attract a lunatic fringe that has sullied it in the eyes of the majority. (Well sullied as in allowed the overall concept to be dismissed because a hardline minority are lacking in enough self awareness to realize they are ridiculous).

Runt: how do you square the above with comments you made in rythmn junkies thread about childcare? There seems to be an contradiction or inconsistancy there no?

As regards the survey - it's a bit simple no?

Has it been piloted down to that or was it always thus?

[Dec]

Originally Posted by broken

I'm ideally looking for someone who is almost stereotypically feminist - opts out of mainstream beauty presented by the media etc.

Speak to my maw. She's all about feminism or bent shit like that.

[Runt]

Originally Posted by endless psych

Runt: how do you square the above with comments you made in rythmn junkies thread about childcare? There seems to be an contradiction or inconsistancy there no?

As regards the survey - it's a bit simple no?

Has it been piloted down to that or was it always thus?

I don't know what you mean, I think I made it clear in RJ thread that I believe maternity/paternity leave needs to be equal and the option for men to take the leave instead of it automatically being the responsibility of the woman. I'll go have a look again incase it's something else...

I don't think anyone has to 'label' themselves a feminist either but it's ludicrous for any independent women to claim she is 'far from it'.

[Mwezzi]

Originally Posted by endless psych

I reckon that you can quite happily want all of the above without having to label yourself a feminist. For instance I prefer to label myself an equalitist. Primarily because it is a term which has yet to attract a lunatic fringe that has sullied it in the eyes of the majority. (Well sullied as in allowed the overall concept to be dismissed because a hardline minority are lacking in enough self awareness to realize they are ridiculous).

That, to me, is a bit calling oneself a 'folllower of the teachings of the Koran' (for example) rather than 'a Muslim' because some of the public is too ignorant to know that that majority of Muslims are not hard-line fundamentalist Al-Quaeda fans.
I prefer to call myself a feminist as well as the more general terms that also apply, such as humanist, equalitist etc. because I DO feel strongly about women's rights and want to see a change for the better for women around the world, which is pretty much a universal feminist statement and nothing to be ashamed of; I also focus my attention a little more towards women's issues, in the way that others my focus more towards LGBTQI or race issues. I also feel that if we had more people who aren't afraid to consider themselves feminist, such causes might get a bit more attention. Also, it would be nice to feel I can talk about some issues without being automatically ignored by a number of my friends who automatically dismiss such things as 'feminist whinging'.

[JennyPiccolo]

Originally Posted by broken

Were pretty vague, or will be pretty vague if I ask you for more depth?

ask away. You can email me at mhairilove@googlemail.com

also, it's called 'feminism' and not 'equalism' because it's the same thing. To desire equality is to desire for women to have more opportunities in life, as the gender who currently have less opportunities. It's not about giving men less opportunities or rights.