[Misc] Women in the Media - Survey

[Potatojunkie]

Originally Posted by JennyPiccolo

also, it's called 'feminism' and not 'equalism' because it's the same thing. To desire equality is to desire for women to have more opportunities in life, as the gender who currently have less opportunities. It's not about giving men less opportunities or rights.

Not quite. I mean, yes, in general it's women who are getting the raw deal, but there are (admittedly few) situations where the reverse is true. Custody of weans, for a start.

[Bunnylingus]

Nae men and child toilets.

[Mwezzi]

Originally Posted by Potatojunkie

Not quite. I mean, yes, in general it's women who are getting the raw deal, but there are (admittedly few) situations where the reverse is true. Custody of weans, for a start.

A subject that is very strongly linked with equal parenting rights in general. If men are viewed as equally competent parents and caregivers to women in every other area, hopefully that would quickly extend to custody rights too. It's symptomatic of the whole 'women are supposed to bear and raise children, men are supposed to work to support them' culture we live in.

[JennyPiccolo]

Originally Posted by Potatojunkie

Not quite. I mean, yes, in general it's women who are getting the raw deal, but there are (admittedly few) situations where the reverse is true. Custody of weans, for a start.

Yes, but these are relatively recent problems, and the term still remains from way back when.You'd need to be nuts to find it offensive, if you actually thought about it for five minutes.

[Runt]

Originally Posted by Bunnylingus

Nae men and child toilets.

Shite example. I assume you mean baby changing areas? Baby changing areas are often in unisex disabled toilets which is more of an inconvenience for them than it is hugely detrimental to mens 'rights'. You may as well have pulled the 'women only car insurance' card.

[Bunnylingus]

It's just what the single fathers in my sociology tutorials always mentioned.

I'm nowhere near as clued up as you guys and I would never pretend to be.

[broken]

I think a lot of women are scared to label themselves as a feminist because of the connotations which can often be negative. Women are scared to label themselves in such as way because it could make them seem like men-haters or even lesbians.
It's a bit ridiculous

[Potatojunkie]

Originally Posted by JennyPiccolo

Yes, but these are relatively recent problems, and the term still remains from way back when.You'd need to be nuts to find it offensive, if you actually thought about it for five minutes.

Never said nuffink about finding it offensive, love. Just that it wasn't quite true.

[JennyPiccolo]

Sorry, i meant the 'you' as in 'one', i know you're not a fruitloop.

Originally Posted by broken

I think a lot of women are scared to label themselves as a feminist because of the connotations which can often be negative. Women are scared to label themselves in such as way because it could make them seem like men-haters or even lesbians.
It's a bit ridiculous

Aye, nobody likes a woman who complains about sexism, as a charming acquaintance of mine once told me.

[LesMTS]

Originally Posted by Runt

...equal pay etc?

Among black people, the pay gap is in the opposite direction (at least in the UK). Black women are paid more than black men.
Not trying to argue against the fact that there is a pay gap, and that this needs addressed. I just think that's an interesting statistic. Demonstrates that prejudices are complex, multifactorial networks rather than simple hierarchies.

[endless psych]

Originally Posted by JennyPiccolo

also, it's called 'feminism' and not 'equalism' because it's the same thing.

It's called feminism because it's concerned with women. Equalism is, in effect, an inclusive term covering gender, age, race etc regarding equality of opportunity.

Equalism =/= feminism although you would have to be a feminist to be an equalist.

[Runt]

Originally Posted by LesMTS

Among black people, the pay gap is in the opposite direction (at least in the UK). Black women are paid more than black men.
Not trying to argue against the fact that there is a pay gap, and that this needs addressed. I just think that's an interesting statistic. Demonstrates that prejudices are complex, multifactorial networks rather than simple hierarchies.

That's interesting, I didn't actually know that. I haven't read much on pay gaps in relation to race (not for this country anyway) or race & sex together but I will now....any links?

[Charlie Parker]

disabled toilets stink of porridge

[Mwezzi]

Originally Posted by LesMTS

Demonstrates that prejudices are complex, multifactorial networks rather than simple hierarchies.

Hope you're not implying that feminists don't understand the concept of intersectionality/kyriarchy, Les!

[broken]

Originally Posted by Charlie Parker

disabled toilets stink of porridge

I've found they smell like pee-pee