Help Tomorrow!

For me, as Eddy pointed out, the -ve's far outweigh the +ve's.

[Engine]

Yeah, he seems to forget to let people know about a LOT of things.
One recent example: for the Insision gig that was originally planned in Edinburgh and then cancelled a few weeks ago, the tickets were still onsale (that's yesterday!) and the ticket agents didn't have a clue the gig had been cancelled. I have many more examples like that. Either he doesn't care or has an awfully bad memory.

[John Spartan]

as far as i knew only scottish date for insision is barfly on friday. and im of the belief that that is still on

[The Continental]

It was Barfly. Then reschedued to the 13th Note on a different date. Then back to Barfly.

[djtoast]

Originally Posted by Talman

The guy was refusing to let people use stands...

???

cymbals, snare i can understand...

but you can't really fuck up someone's stands can you!? they're dirty great lumps of metal!

plus if had to carry my stands bags to a gig i wouldn't be fussed about taking the drums too, it's the stands that are the fucker to move anyway

[Engine]

There was a gig for Insision in Edinburgh as well originally, then it wasn't possible to reschedule with the new dates but he somehow neglected telling the venue and support bands immediately. He did it in the end but only after I found out online and challenged him. He still forgot to take the tickets offsale though!

[Tommy]

Originally Posted by djtoast

but you can't really fuck up someone's stands can you!? they're dirty great lumps of metal!

When we supported the Undead at Tuts the drummer wouldnt let us use his stands. He had them "at the right height." The singer also stopped the sound check as one of his road crew were smoking in the hall. He told them to get out as "he has a sore throat."

[Darwin]

Simple solution would be to say "You can use my stands if you don't adjust them at all."

Some people.

[djtoast]

or, adjust them back again afterwards.

sheesh.

if they WEREN'T adjustable, there'd be no problem, and since they ARE, there still isn't!!!

my sweet lord.

[Gadafti Inc.]

yeh fair enuff, but when its a tight running gig as most of these affairs are, folk are looking for a slick changeover. ok it seems a touch excessive, but folk should supply there own gear in the main and shouldn't have to rely on other bands to wipe their arse for them.

[Kenny]

Good news, Eddy, Fallout 40 are bringing most of the backline next month!

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[Gadafti Inc.]

We're self sufficient . My point isn't that no one should ever borrow stuff off other bands, but you get some bands who, with out any prior agreement, just want to use everthing and when something gets broken they don't even open their gubs to tell ya!

[Talman]

Originally Posted by Gadafti Inc.

yeh fair enuff, but when its a tight running gig as most of these affairs are, folk are looking for a slick changeover. ok it seems a touch excessive, but folk should supply there own gear in the main and shouldn't have to rely on other bands to wipe their arse for them.

There wouldn't have been a problem if the band got told to bring their own stands. Drummers normally get told to bring their own snare,cymbals and bass pedal.

[Stew]

There isn't an awful lot of defending going on here from the origional poster.

[GarryHoax]

Originally Posted by Gadafti Inc.

We're self sufficient . My point isn't that no one should ever borrow stuff off other bands, but you get some bands who, with out any prior agreement, just want to use everthing and when something gets broken they don't even open their gubs to tell ya!

I think the best thing to do is to call ahead and get all this shit sorted before you turn up to the venue. At Tuts coming up Fastlane have agreed to let us use their kit so there'll be no hassle when we get to the place. sorted.