Organising a gig? Avoid this band!

[karbon14]

Originally Posted by Foxglove

It doesn't read as particularly slating to me. The band did not show up. .

how do you know that?

its schoolyard as fuck

[pANDAS Radio]

Why is it shite modding? PHP have made themselves look like a bunch of whingeing fuckwits. It shows bands what they'd be like to work with. Leaving this thread up is a public service for any bands who might have considered working with them. That = good modding.

Originally Posted by karbon14

how do you know that?

its schoolyard as fuck

Exactly, hopefully the band will give their version of events.

[purkle]

Hmm does the first poster in the thread not realise they are giving the band more publicity.

[pANDAS Radio]

Originally Posted by TheCastrator

Because anything off topic gets deleted now.

That's surely got to be a joke.

[Ghostsuit]

Originally Posted by pANDAS Radio

That's surely got to be a joke.

It's surely got to be someone taking the hump and saying all black people steal cars cause he saw a car stolen once by a black man.

Heres what happened...
I deleted about 20 posts in this thread say, "I'm in the band, we tried to call" and other stuff like that. Ie forumers trying to be wide in a serious thread. After doing that this discussion about the band/promoter started which if I'd left the "comedy posts" probably wouldn't have started as the thread would have drowned in it.

Good call? Bad Call? Depends on which side of the fence you sit on I guess.

[Zippy]

Castrator's car got knocked off a black guy?

Seriously?

Glasgow's gone to pot.

[pANDAS Radio]

Originally Posted by Ghostsuit

Good call? Bad Call? Depends on which side of the fence you sit on I guess.

I thought they meant that anything off topic in all threads was being deleted.

[Ghostsuit]

Originally Posted by pANDAS Radio

I thought they meant that anything off topic in all threads was being deleted.

Yeah well as I said It happens in one thread and someone throws a hissy fit . Basically were trying to keep threads on topic to a degree, if its a serious thread then a flood of joke posts on the first page will usually kill the topic. It's a fine line though and we don't want to kill the banter etc just give people a chance to discuss things without it being flooded.

[pANDAS Radio]

Originally Posted by Largest of Gregs

any promoters in Glasgow who have heard of them?

I just spoke to a different promoter about them and didn't hear anything complimentary. I believe the word "fud" was used a few times.


their website has a section that says...

Unlike other promoters, we produce posters for our local shows and submit listings to all major print and online entertainments guides.

That does come across as slightly derogatory towards Glasgow's other promoters.

It is Pay To Play bullshit anyway, their Myspaz page says...

What are your ticket deals?
Soundhaus - Our ticket policy for shows at Soundhaus is as follows.
We'll give you as many tickets as you want but you are required to guarantee the first 24 at £5 each (£120), anything on top of that you can keep the money for, we won't take a percentage or anything.
Due to recent problems with bands renaging on this agreement - ticket money must be paid to the stage manager PRIOR to your gig - otherwise the band will not play the show. It is also the responsibility of the bands to let PHP know if tickets have not been recieved at least 3 weeks prior to the gig as you will still be responsible to pay the ticket guarentee on the night.
We will promote all our gigs with posters, flyers and listings in all major print and web guides so that should help. Backline will be provided.
Ivory Blacks - Our ticket policy for gigs at Ivory Blacks are as follows:
each band will recieve 30 tickets to sell. Bands should be expected to sell between 15-20 tickets for this night and if you feel as though this is not possible then please do not ask to play these nights as failure to sell
tickets for this 300 capacity venue will result in your band not being considered for any future PHP shows including our signed tour support.
Band payment at the end of the night is 50% post expenses of all ticket sales.Your payment will be reflective on the amount of tickets you sell.
Let us know if you're still interested as soon as possible and we'll let you know about our available slots.
13th Note - No tickets are required to be sold - but bands are encouraged to bring along as many fans as they can - Band payment at the end of the night is 50% post expenses of all ticket sales.Your payment will be reflective on the amount of people you bring along.

What should I do if I need to cancel a show?
GIVE US PLENTY OF NOTICE! Nine times out of ten if we get plenty of time to make alternative arrangements then we can get a replacement band sorted. Due to a small number of bands who haven't given us this courtesy we reserve the right to charge a £50 cancellation fee on all shows rising to £100 if given less than two weeks' notice and £200 if you don't turn up to a gig without giving us prior warning.

We hate to have to do this, and the vast majority of bands are professional and courteous enough that we can make alternative arrangements without charging cancellation fees. However, due to a few less professional bands we need to protect ourselves!

You've got to wonder why they need to have a cancellation fee, do bands regularly decide not to play their shows?

[Kenny]

Originally Posted by AWESOMEUS MAXIMUS

punyhumanpromotions is some pay-to-play-rape-the-local band poopy ass promotions company is it not?

DESERVED.

Agreeing with the underscore man isn't something I like to get too involved with, but there it is. If you're going to treat bands as nothing but a revenue opportunity it doesn't come as a huge surprise that now and then they might realise they're being scammed to fuck.

[MarkMono]

Originally Posted by pANDAS Radio

You've got to wonder why they need to have a cancellation fee, do bands regularly decide not to play their shows?

When they work out they're being raped for every penny in their pocket and more besides, I'd like some sort of legal hold over them.

Kidnapping a relative is more my style though, extortion just isn't how I roll.

[Largest of Gregs]

punyhuman are shite it seems. Still, bands should damn well show up for gigs they agree to play

[SqueeTDM]

"Bands should be expected to sell between 15-20 tickets for this night and if you feel as though this is not possible then please do not ask to play these nights as failure to sell
tickets for this 300 capacity venue will result in your band not being considered for any future PHP shows including our signed tour support."

For some reason, that bit made me lol

[Joe Spinebuster]

Specific practices of any promoter in particular aside, the idea of "publicly blackballing" a band seems fair enough to me. Every band under the sun is quick enough to register their disgust throughout the internet whenever a promoter does them wrong, so I guess I don't see any harm in promoters doing likewise when the shoe is on the other foot. It'd help prevent other local promoters falling into the same traps that they did, I imagine?
I'm speaking in a very general sense here, of course, because I don't really know the ins and outs of Puny Human Promotions or Lifelords, nor have I even actually actually read all of the first post to be honest.

Speaking of Lifelords, I just checked them out for the first time on MySpace. Pretty fucking decent to my ears!

[¡Punk!]

If only Forbes had left up Tam's reply that they couldn't make it because of a bus crash in Denmark everything would be hunky-dory