Marriage - Page 8

Pantgirl · 15th May 2008, 11:04pm

This thread is making me depressed now

*sniff*

evilglamcaitlin · 15th May 2008, 11:06pm

The thought of me being a mother is hilarious.

Bunnylingus · 15th May 2008, 11:09pm

I really, really want kids.

I'd be a good mummy.

evilglamcaitlin · 15th May 2008, 11:11pm

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Originally Posted by Bunnylingus

I really, really want kids.

I really, really want kids too.

Probably not in the same way though.

MarkMono · 15th May 2008, 11:15pm

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Originally Posted by Rhöna of the Rhein

But the point remains that cohabitants have opted not to enter into a contract of marriage - they don't necessarily want the rights.

Of course, there are couples who will benefit from the provisions. Perhaps they don't believe in the concept of marriage/have kids/have lived together for many years. I can understand that these couples really should have rights, particularly rights upon intestacy.

But for those couples, who, as i said earlier, were moving in together to 'test their relationship' but without the intention of creating similar legal obligations as in marriage, they lose out, particularly if the relationship fails - if they split up, they will be left with a more tricky separation than if the rights didn't exist at all.

It just doesn't make much sense to my mind to apply these rights pretty much across the board.

Before reading this thread I would've agreed with you, however the point about cohabitation legally consituting an implied contract is an excellent one.

endless psych · 15th May 2008, 11:18pm

This implied contract thing is that just commonlaw husband and wife stuff?

Are there not a fair few glaring gaps in legislation rights wise with that still?

MarkMono · 15th May 2008, 11:20pm

The point was that cohabitation is not considered a valid contract of partnership rights-wise, implied or otherwise.

endless psych · 15th May 2008, 11:23pm

Ah ok. Curse my reading inability yet again.

Found this though

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In 2006 "marriage by cohabitation with habit and repute" was also abolished in the Family Law (Scotland) Act 2006. Until that act had come into force, Scotland remained the only European jurisdiction never to have totally abolished the old style common-law marriage. For this law to apply, the minimum time the couple have lived together continuously had to have exceeded 20 days.

So how many folks were married and didn't realise it?

TehBunny · 16th May 2008, 12:21am

'I would like to get married, but I’m unsure when'

I would need to meet someone that had the same opinion about what marriage IS before I even considered it. Never ever met anyone who agrees with me. I don't see it as a bit of paper. I see it as a bond, as you showing that person that you really DO want to spend the rest of your life with them, have kids, kittens and be BFF. Just exchanging lovely rings with no vows or legality is not marriage to me. Sure, it's showing slight commitment. Whoever I marry..it'll be the only marriage I have.

Also - I view this whole 'stag' and 'hen' night thing as fucking ridiculous. You're celebrating your last day of 'singledom' by doing what people do on those nights out?! What the hell have you been doing for the past while? As far as I'm aware, you've been in a relationship with someone who you are so commited to, you're about to marry them...why the hell do you need a dodgy night out to mourn this fact?! I just don't get it. Fair play to whoever goes on these things..and I doubt I'll ever meet a man who agrees with me about them..but it's an opinion I've always had. The whole thing makes me feel icky.

Might have to wait a fair bit for the 'perfect' relationship to come about. If it doesn't, I plan to be an amazingly crazy cat lady, FOR REAL.

**djtoast** · 16th May 2008, 1:02am

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Originally Posted by bikuki

I'm with Kirsten - I want to get married, get a big house in the country with lots of animals and have kids.

Good luck to you both

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Originally Posted by TehBunny

Also - I view this whole 'stag' and 'hen' night thing as fucking ridiculous. You're celebrating your last day of 'singledom' by doing what people do on those nights out?! What the hell have you been doing for the past while? As far as I'm aware, you've been in a relationship with someone who you are so commited to, you're about to marry them...why the hell do you need a dodgy night out to mourn this fact?!

I've been on two stag nights and had one of my own, and none of them were about any final shenanigans or anything... just friends drinking (a lot) together. Doesn't have to be a tawdry, skanky affair. (My best man was a woman, so she organised a very tasteful evening, with only abare minimum ofstripper action

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TehBunny · 16th May 2008, 1:10am

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Originally Posted by djtoast

I've been on two stag nights and had one of my own, and none of them were about any final shenanigans or anything... just friends drinking (a lot) together. Doesn't have to be a tawdry, skanky affair. (My best man was a woman, so she organised a very tasteful evening, with only abare minimum ofstripper action

)

See..it isn't even so much about the slutty/sleazy stuffs. It's more so the fact that it seems like the people are mourning the fact that they will never be able to date another person again. :/ If I had that thought on my mind, I wouldn't get married..cos that's not what marriage is about to me.

I'm all for a massive party of family and friends celebrating the fact you are about to get married. Stag + Hen nights symbolize the 'end of an era', so to speak.

MarkMono · 16th May 2008, 1:11am

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Originally Posted by TehBunny

'I would like to get married, but I’m unsure when'

I would need to meet someone that had the same opinion about what marriage IS before I even considered it. Never ever met anyone who agrees with me. I don't see it as a bit of paper. I see it as a bond, as you showing that person that you really DO want to spend the rest of your life with them, have kids, kittens and be BFF. Just exchanging lovely rings with no vows or legality is not marriage to me. Sure, it's showing slight commitment. Whoever I marry..it'll be the only marriage I have.

Also - I view this whole 'stag' and 'hen' night thing as fucking ridiculous. You're celebrating your last day of 'singledom' by doing what people do on those nights out?! What the hell have you been doing for the past while? As far as I'm aware, you've been in a relationship with someone who you are so commited to, you're about to marry them...why the hell do you need a dodgy night out to mourn this fact?! I just don't get it. Fair play to whoever goes on these things..and I doubt I'll ever meet a man who agrees with me about them..but it's an opinion I've always had. The whole thing makes me feel icky.

Might have to wait a fair bit for the 'perfect' relationship to come about. If it doesn't, I plan to be an amazingly crazy cat lady, FOR REAL.

Agree with you completely on the stag and hen night thing, the entire idea seems completely disrespectful to your partner and belongs to an age where it was possible to be engaged to someone you didn't actually know.

Kath · 16th May 2008, 3:06am

I would love to get married as soon as possible. Craig and I have been living in our bought flat for a year and unofficially for probably about a year and a half.

However I have to say after about a week of being together, I knew he was going to be the man I was going to spend my life with.

Vonnie · 16th May 2008, 5:48am

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Originally Posted by TehBunny

See..it isn't even so much about the slutty/sleazy stuffs. It's more so the fact that it seems like the people are mourning the fact that they will never be able to date another person again. :/ If I had that thought on my mind, I wouldn't get married..cos that's not what marriage is about to me.

I'm all for a massive party of family and friends celebrating the fact you are about to get married. Stag + Hen nights symbolize the 'end of an era', so to speak.

Hmmm.

I had a hen night (although I actually hate that word) and it was never about mourning my single life for me, it was very much a celebration of the ritual I was about to go through. There was no pulling other guys, no stripper (although I understand that was a close call!) and no seriously debauched antics. I had dinner and drinks with loads of my friends who I don't get to see very often then went to the dancing. I think it really depends on your line of thought whether it's disrespectful to your partner or not.

System_Star · 16th May 2008, 7:56am

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Originally Posted by Rowsbette

I'm a bit surprised at the amount of cynicism in this thread... even happily marrieds like Vonnie are citing their reasons for marriage as relating to rights etc. I know all the divorce stats are dire and it's an outdated institution, yadda yadda yadda... but surely the gesture that you wanna spend the rest of your life with someone still means something? And the concept of wanting to share that sense of love and commitment with your closest pals and family isn't necessarily a bad thing?

Fair does, it seems to have become of a bit of a commercial thing these days (as anyone who saw last night's The Apprentice will understand) but surely marriage still means something?

I know, where is the romance!? I would want to get married because I love them and couldn't imagine being with anyone else and I would want to spend my life with them. Arsed about all this law stuff and entitlement.