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18th October 2004, 1:32pm
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#16 | | Troll Banned
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| Re: Stabbings 'a public health issue'
bullshit.....Ive been in london and it is by the far the unsafest place to walk at night on the fucking universe. | 
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18th October 2004, 1:48pm
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#17 | | Goned
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| Re: Stabbings 'a public health issue'
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Originally Posted by flying_rat Maybe I'm being naieve (sp?) but why are knives and guns n stuff not just totally illegal? Seems a simple solution to me! | Because its either to costly to impliment a ban...and besides they are thousands on the streets already so your never going to stock them being there.
They also legal uses. They might not actually be used for the right purpose but they arent about to start banned power drills because the IRA or whoever used them to kneecap people with them. How do you define as a kitchen knife/carpet cutter/fishing knife?
There should be stricter legislation on them but it will never solve the problem...theyve been freely available for way to long. If you look at the handgun ban from a few years ago all it did was stop law abiding people from having them...the criminals still use them and in fact crimes involving handguns have increased. | |
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18th October 2004, 2:29pm
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#18 | | Gutentag McGyver
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| Re: Stabbings 'a public health issue'
Do you know in New York, it is 40 times more dangerous being a taxi driver compared to a policeman. | |
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18th October 2004, 3:55pm
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#19 | | We love this exaltation
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| Re: Stabbings 'a public health issue'
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Originally Posted by CAPTAIN AWESOME PANTS bullshit.....Ive been in london and it is by the far the unsafest place to walk at night on the fucking universe. | I walked round London all night with a mate and it was a piece of cake. Anyway s'all a bit of luck isnt it? It isnt suprising to hear Glasgow's pretty rough but it is suprising to hear its worse than London. I guess thats just how it is.
So if heart disease or cancer dosnt kill you in the West Coast of Scotland then a knife will. Quote: |
Originally Posted by flying_rat Maybe I'm being naieve (sp?) but why are knives and guns n stuff not just totally illegal? Seems a simple solution to me! | they are illegal to carry. Guns are illegal without a licence yet your not gonna get some gangster thinking to himself "Im not 'avin a shooter, their illegal." Itd be a bit ironic that eh? Knife's are illegal to carry yet they can hardly outlaw the knife. What would you cut your steak with? | |
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18th October 2004, 4:03pm
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#20 | | Strong protect the weak Admin
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Originally Posted by James Do you know in New York, it is 40 times more dangerous being a taxi driver compared to a policeman. | Do you know 99% of statistics are made up on the spot!
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18th October 2004, 4:41pm
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#21 | | Dirk Gently
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| Re: Stabbings 'a public health issue'
called.
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18th October 2004, 10:39pm
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#22 | | Gutentag McGyver
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Originally Posted by Ghostsuit Do you know 99% of statistics are made up on the spot! | same applies | |
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18th October 2004, 10:41pm
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#23 | | Strong protect the weak Admin
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Originally Posted by James same applies | Really! 
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18th October 2004, 10:43pm
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#24 | | Gutentag McGyver
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| Re: Stabbings 'a public health issue'
aye and don't roll yer eyes at me boy! | |
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18th October 2004, 10:50pm
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#25 | | Tannhauser Gate Veteran
Join Date: May 2001 Location: On the moral high ground - And armed!
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| Re: Stabbings 'a public health issue'
The last time I was involved in anything knife-related, it was some prepubescent fucksnot that tried to jump me and Kat just up from the Academy.
He had a kitchen knife.
We need to get neds off the streets, and knives will go with them.
Convicted of a violent crime?
Goodbye. You're getting taken to do your rehabilitation somewhere where you can't be a bother to normal people, who DON'T feel the need to hassle people in the street and demand money by waving a 12" kitchen knife at them.
Police need to do their job properly for once - Go on the visual cues that say "This person may have a concealed weapon"... One of the largest of those clues being "This person is openly drinking from a bottle of cider/buckfast/whatever in the street".
Cops should all be issued with metal detectors, and given the power to use those for a search whenever they have suspicion of knife-carrying.
I don't really see that as an invasion of privacy - You're not being made to turn out your pockets or anything, you're just being checked for large sharp chunks of steel. | |
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19th October 2004, 7:21am
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#26 | | We love this exaltation
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| Re: Stabbings 'a public health issue'
madatory jail time for 1st offence with a knife, even if its just possession. | |
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19th October 2004, 9:47am
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#27 | | Tannhauser Gate Veteran
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Yup. Good call. | |
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19th October 2004, 1:54pm
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#28 | | Gutentag McGyver
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| Re: Stabbings 'a public health issue' [warning: unsettling images]
Bring back the death penalty. After hearing about the 3 men that were killed then the young guy that was shot. Bring it back I say | |
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19th October 2004, 2:17pm
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#29 | | I hate your band SuperMod
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| Re: Stabbings 'a public health issue'
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Originally Posted by CAPTAIN AWESOME PANTS bullshit.....Ive been in london and it is by the far the unsafest place to walk at night on the fucking universe. | That's utter codswallop.
All major cities (and most not-so-major ones) have areas you really don't want to walk around alone in. Most have areas you don't want to walk through at night even when in large groups.
They're all bad.
Claiming that London's less safe or more scary to walk around than Blackpool, Preston, Hull, Manchester, or Leeds (for just a few quick and easy examples) just shows that you've not been around much.
...and that's just talking about England. Fancy a stroll through downtown Shenzen at chucking-out time?
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19th October 2004, 2:21pm
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#30 | | Gutentag McGyver
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| Re: Stabbings 'a public health issue' [warning: unsettling images]
I do! | |
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