what does ballet mean?

[The_librarian]

Most Ballet, is part of a performance of a story, so what ever the scene is with in the play.

[Campestral]

and what scene is music or a play part of?

[The_librarian]

I'm not quite getting your question here.

[Campestral]

is it because you don't know the difference between music, art and ballet? music and art doesn't rely on other variable but dance does

[The_librarian]

Dance, doesn't rely on any other variable, as the rythm that the dancer uses may indeed come from nothing more than that which is inside, Be it the heart beat, or a timing that comes from else where.

Much as Music comes from with in the soul of the musician, and Art, and by this I assume you mean painting, comes from how the surondings make the artist feel.

The one difference is that a musician, and an artist rely a tool, Instrument, or paint, to express this, a dancer, only needs a space, and his own body to do this.

[Campestral]

the only place a person can shake their body without needing and outside force is during sex. where can someone dance without sound? musicians and artists don't need other stimuli

[The_librarian]

Originally Posted by Campestral

the only place a person can shake their body without needing and outside force is during sex. where can someone dance without sound? musicians and artists don't need other stimuli

First point, and this is from a personal view, so may not be universaly true, I regularly dance about my flat, with and without music being present, often it is the movement that creates the sound, giving it a beat.

Second point, where does the immpotus for the music come from, if there is no stimulus, all art requires an outside force, but again that is only a personal feeling.

[Campestral]

when you say you like to dance about your room don't you have a rythmn in your head and isn't rythmn music so dance wouldn't exist without music so that is the stimuli dancers rely on and musicians only rely on emotions the same way as artists because they don't need external ideas apart from the things nature throws at them

[The_librarian]

And the rythmn that I create in my head is just that tied in to my emotion, thus is no different to the musician, or the artist.

None of them is better than the other, just different ways of expressing the same things.

[Campestral]

basement jazz say it right when they say good luck in your new bed and you're resting your head, enjoy your nightmares when you're trying to dance without music, you'll be singing no more nights dance needs music!

[The_librarian]

Dance requires a beat, not music, and that rythmn can come from with in, but fair doos, if you feel that music is truth.

As I have said more than once, no form of art is superior, different things affect different people in different ways. Therin lies the buety of art, we all know what we like.

[Campestral]

i know people like easy things to say but really it's true music is the most affecting art, it moves everyone. paint jobs move a few people and so does a wee bit of tango but music is the only shifter we've created. ok wait i think there might be a contender, physicians! einstein is one of the brainiest people who ever lived and showed us the outside world but hmmm physics is just the inside world looked at another way. still cool to look at though

[The_librarian]

But what moves music, what is it that drives music?

Is it the emotion, is it the rythmn?

Just wondering, as I do think that music is very affecting, but other forms affect me just as much, from painting, to dancing to writing.

Then there is the fact that, as I have said before, all art is subjective, and affects each individual in very different ways.

In answer to your question about a contender I would posibly put writing up there.

[Campestral]

i stand corrected. literature is probably the 2nd best art because it empowers the imagination via deep thought. music rules though because it empowers thought and physicality. ballet is pretty much open for discussion because it seems to rely on higher education and anything that is reliant isn't really art, it's pretentious because it's assumptious and one should never assume

[endless psych]

Theres no point trying to rank subjectives yet every human being on the planet seems to be obsessed with doing so.

I do it myself on a regular basis and have absolutely no idea why.