Season 3 - US - Page 5

darth_haggis · 9th October 2006, 2:51pm

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Originally Posted by Dyno

That quote was referring to "The Monster", which was after the Eko/Black Smoke incident, so it has me confused as to what they really mean.

I dont know exactly which quote he means, but going on his wording, I'd think that was Henry/FHenry/Ben?

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Originally Posted by Dyno

I'm not entirely convinced he's dead.

Theres two things that would make the plausible - the fact we've see other 'dead' people interact.
The other, go look out for 'hydra' and not the one thats the beast.

Personally, I think he's dead - I cant see what significance he'd bring to the story if he wasn't.

But who knows? Not even the writers, I bet

Dyno · 9th October 2006, 3:35pm

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Originally Posted by darth_haggis

I dont know exactly which quote he means, but going on his wording, I'd think that was Henry/FHenry/Ben?

In the quote he misworded by adding "[the bad guy]" was one of the producers talking about the monster, not a bad guy, or "him"

darth_haggis · 9th October 2006, 3:50pm

pass.

I remember a similar quote, but don't it was those exact words.

I still don't see how a 'bad guy' would mean the monster, either, but there ye are

Stew · 9th October 2006, 4:42pm

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Originally Posted by darth_haggis

all that was said was that was the last civilised meal she'd have as the next 14 days were going to be pretty bad.

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Originally Posted by Wicked

Some people also think shes got "the sickness" and thats why the next 2 weeks are gonna be hard. Cos shes sick.
Remember when she removed her plaster. her injection mark looked infected.

Hrmm.. yeah. Sawyer and Jack also had the injection marks and Jack being medically trained didn't seem to concerned with the fact that he had been injected.

They have information on them all, apparently. Well, at least on Jack. So what's the significance of him being in the underwater facility and Kate and Sawyer being in cages? Their relationship is to be tested.. or something else?

Dravious · 9th October 2006, 8:03pm

They seemed to want to get Jacks co-operation. Keeping him seperate from Sawyer and Kate would make that easier. Keeping him underwater stops him from getting to them, or them getting to him.

Was the guy who escaped (from the cell across from Sawyer) a plant by the others to discourage Sawyer from trying to escape again and to get him to discourage Kate from escape atempts. Or was he possibly one of the tail section lot who were taken in the first few nights or even from a previous group like Desmond. Just now im thinking he was a plant, but i expect he'll turn up again at some point.

Wicked · 10th October 2006, 12:26am

The kid (Karl) was an other. Apparently you could see him briefly at the beginning when the plane crashed.

darth_haggis · 10th October 2006, 8:29am

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Originally Posted by Stew

Hrmm.. yeah. Sawyer and Jack also had the injection marks and Jack being medically trained didn't seem to concerned with the fact that he had been injected.?

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Originally Posted by Dravious

They seemed to want to get Jacks co-operation. Keeping him seperate from Sawyer and Kate would make that easier. Keeping him underwater stops him from getting to them, or them getting to him.

Jacks one of the best doctors from his city, so maybe they see him as valuable? The others seem pretty self-sufficient and possibly even have contacts off the island, but maybe Jack there is convenient to them?

The underwater tank was interesting. At least we know where the shark came from

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Originally Posted by Stew

They have information on them all, apparently. Well, at least on Jack. So what's the significance of him being in the underwater facility and Kate and Sawyer being in cages? Their relationship is to be tested.. or something else?

Maybe Sawyer and Kate are expendable-bait? Jacks too precious to risk being above ground/accessible to any planned rescue?

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Originally Posted by Dravious

Was the guy who escaped (from the cell across from Sawyer) a plant by the others to discourage Sawyer from trying to escape again and to get him to discourage Kate from escape atempts. Or was he possibly one of the tail section lot who were taken in the first few nights or even from a previous group like Desmond. Just now im thinking he was a plant, but i expect he'll turn up again at some point.

Hmmm I think he was genuine. I thought he tried to throw Sawyer in another direction so he could escape - splitting them up giving 'Chachi' more of a chance?

Stew · 10th October 2006, 1:27pm

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Originally Posted by darth_haggis

Jacks one of the best doctors from his city, so maybe they see him as valuable? The others seem pretty self-sufficient and possibly even have contacts off the island, but maybe Jack there is convenient to them?

I'm swinging round to the belief that Jack's dad isn't dead, now. :/

He was Chief of Surgeon at "St. Sebastian Hospital". St Sebastian is said to be the guardian of those infected with the plague. This may connect him with the island in that the island is said to have a virus requiring quarantine (like the plague). St. Sebastian was tied to a tree and shot with arrows--a possible connection to The Arrow hatch.

Ho, hum.

Zippy · 10th October 2006, 1:44pm

The ploy to get Jack to Oz and then on that flight would be to say that his dad is dead, it makes sense that he's still alive.

endless psych · 10th October 2006, 1:46pm

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Originally Posted by Zippy

The ploy to get Jack to Oz and then on that flight would be to say that his dad is dead, it makes sense that he's still alive.

That would surely mean that pushing the button had no real effect? Unless whoever got Jack onto that flight was 100% sure of what Desomnds actions would be on said day?

Zippy · 10th October 2006, 1:48pm

I believe that whoever got them onto the island planned that those specific people would be on the plane - has pushing the button had any real effect though? We've seen that it didn't even effect people on the same island after the explosion nevermind ending the world.

darth_haggis · 10th October 2006, 1:51pm

Maybe it was fate.

Dont mistake coincidence for fate (or words to that effect)

endless psych · 10th October 2006, 1:52pm

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Originally Posted by Zippy

I believe that whoever got them onto the island planned that those specific people would be on the plane - has pushing the button had any real effect though? We've seen that it didn't even effect people on the same island after the explosion nevermind ending the world.

This is true - theres no way of knowing if pushing the button has any effect. Perhaps one of the other stations has someone sitting in it controlling the magnetic field? It would make sense if you buy into the cold war missle defence scanerio and would explain how they could target the plane... Even causing it to break up and land in the way it did?

Stew · 10th October 2006, 1:55pm

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Originally Posted by Zippy

The ploy to get Jack to Oz and then on that flight would be to say that his dad is dead, it makes sense that he's still alive.

Sorry, I meant to say he's something to do with the research on the island and is a possible "in charge" type person higher than Ben.

endless psych · 10th October 2006, 1:59pm

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Originally Posted by darth_haggis

Maybe it was fate.

Dont mistake coincidence for fate (or words to that effect)

meh...

I reckon when the show is concluded there will be strong arguements for the events being subject to explanations that tend towards "fate" and those that tend towards "science"...

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Originally Posted by Stew

Sorry, I meant to say he's something to do with the research on the island and is a possible "in charge" type person higher than Ben.

If indeed "the others" are included in the research and not just subjects for said research...?