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Old 1st March 2008, 9:46am   #16
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Re: Season 4: Episode 5.

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Or maybe... she saw the Charlie from the future that Hugo saw, maybe he can time travel too! And maybe... I'm just clutching at straws...

I do actually have a theory. Penny's dad bought the Hanso diary, which may have details on the island. Penny's dad was the one who sent Desmond on the sailing trip if I remember rightly. After he disapeared, maybe Penny's dad told her about the island...
But why would she assume he was on the island? She told him never to see her again. Maybe he was respecting her wishes. Something must have made her want to find him and something must have connected him with the island.
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Re: Season 4: Episode 5.

Did she not find out why Desmond left in the first place?
I thought she had found out that her dad forced him to leave her?
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Old 1st March 2008, 9:49am   #18
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Re: Season 4: Episode 5.

I dont remember that far back. Too much has happened.
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Old 1st March 2008, 10:39am   #19
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Re: Season 4: Episode 5.

Ahhh I just watched it and now my head is spinning. Good episode tho.
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Old 3rd March 2008, 1:46pm   #20
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But why would she assume he was on the island? She told him never to see her again. Maybe he was respecting her wishes. Something must have made her want to find him and something must have connected him with the island.
My favourite theory is that Henry Gale was following Desmond on his round the world race because Penny had hired him to. Before Desmond went missing on the island in the bad weather Henry had managed to transmit his co-ordinates and a message about electromagnetism. Penny had then got the message and set up that listening station with the two guys to watch for the electromagnetic anomaly.

It sort of fits since Henry gale arrived on the island on a balloon sponsored or made by Widmore Corporation (Penny's Dad's company) and a company called Minnesota Metallurgy & Mining Co. (We'll ignore Mr. Cluck's Chicken Shack!).

Random bit of nonsense that Lost just loves to bring up:
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In Homer's Odyssey, Penelope was the faithful wife of Odysseus. She waited for him for twenty years while he was lost at sea and thought by many to be dead, resisting the advances of 108 suitors who tried to marry her. Because of this, she is often used as a symbol of marital fidelity.
Hell, they even got the 108 in there!
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Old 3rd March 2008, 9:02pm   #21
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Re: Season 4: Episode 5.

Just, over the last 2 weeks, watched seasons 1, 2, 3 and the first five eps of 4.
Finally I am into it.
That was an amazing episode right there. Possible idea in my head right now of Pennys dad possibly finding out bout island from book, or perhaps already knows etc, and his round the world race he was sponsoring was perhaps some way of finding it, hoping that one of the racers would stumple across it.
Very interesting the note of time difference from the island and "reality"
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Re: Season 4: Episode 5.

That was amazing, but I really do fail to see how this is all going to wrap up neatly.
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Re: Season 4: Episode 5.

It probably wont.
American TV just do what it usually does and cancel the show without an ending hah..
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AT LEAST IT WAS A BLOODY MILA-TREE DREAM.
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This time distortion really intrigued me. I may be remembering incorrectly, but I think Jack or someone said the chopper ride to the boat should have only taken about 20 minutes? And they hadn't heard from Sayid in a day and a half? If I'm mistaken, the following math is totally wrong, but follow me on this.

A day and a half is 36 hours. Multiply that by 60 and you get 2160 minutes. That makes the distortion ratio 20/2160, or 1/108, meaning for every minute passing outside the island, 108 minutes pass on the island. 108 just happens to be the sum of the numbers (4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42) and the interval that said numbers had to be entered in the hatch.

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Very interesting the note of time difference from the island and "reality"
8 years?
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Re: Season 4: Episode 5.

Here is a question for you before tonight's episode: was the time-travel illness that killed Minkowski is the same mythical ''sickness'' that killed The French Lady's fellow scientists wayyy back in the day?
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Here is a question for you before tonight's episode: was the time-travel illness that killed Minkowski is the same mythical ''sickness'' that killed The French Lady's fellow scientists wayyy back in the day?
Good call. But if thats the case, how come nobody but Desmond got it?
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Good call. But if thats the case, how come nobody but Desmond got it?
The failsafe key was turned by him before the hatch exploded.
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8 years?
No i mean the fact that it felt 20minutes for Sayid etc to fly to the freighter whereas Jack etc experienced a day and a half.
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The failsafe key was turned by him before the hatch exploded.
So then how did Danielles crew get it?
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