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Old 7th March 2008, 10:50am   #31
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Re: Season 4: Episode 5.

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So then how did Danielles crew get it?
I'd really have to go back and re-watch some episodes to be sure, but I seem to remember Desmond washed up on the beach in a flashback and Kelvin was wearing a HAZMAT suit when he took him back to the hatch, which must imply that he was protecting himself from some sort of infection. It was at that point that Kelvin started telling Desmond about the injections of vaccine every nine days.

That was him coming on to the island and Kelvin was concerned that Desmond would have the sickness. Hence I figured travelling to/coming off the island is the cause of it, and it ties in with the stuff that happened in this episode.

You've also got the facts that could mean it isn't a sickness that's physical rather than a mental one since Kelvin's suit had a rip in it, and on seeing that he followed him and saw him taking the HAZMAT suit off. PLUS, they simply took them off in the living areas, surely if there was a threat of a disease or anything being picked up physically then they'd need to disinfect the suits in a safe area?

ALSO, Desmond told Claire that she was wasting her time with the infections for Aaron which could point out that the vaccine was useless and/or the sickness didn't infect children (since they didn't have the required memory to be affected by the stuff that happened to Desmond in this episode.

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Anyway, this ties in with my NEW THEORY~! I'll spoiler.

Danielle's crew picked up the illness getting to the island, but she had an immunity to the mental problems. This ties in with my belief that Jack, Kate, Locke etc were hand-picked, as they wouldn't develop the illness either, to continue the research on the island. Hence all the, "We have to go back~!~!," stuff.
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Old 7th March 2008, 10:56am   #32
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Re: Season 4: Episode 5.

I disagree with basically everything Stew said there ^
I maintain the sickness and this timetravelling lark are separate things.
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Old 7th March 2008, 11:09am   #33
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I disagree with basically everything Stew said there ^
I maintain the sickness and this timetravelling lark are separate things.
There's no proof that there is a sickness that's physical though. The only thing we know is that Danielle killed the rest of her people. She'd specifically said that she never saw any Others, who she blamed for carrying the illness. An official podcast said that the sickness made people "go crazy".

The kicker for me, though, which also ties into what Wicked said about Danielle's crew getting it but not her, is that Faraday suggested that exposure to radiation or electromagnetism was an element in creating the "side effects." Danielle, however, was pregnant when her crew shipwrecked and would have presumably avoided exposure to radiation.
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Old 7th March 2008, 11:36am   #34
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Re: Season 4: Episode 5.

Clutching at straws?
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Old 7th March 2008, 11:49am   #35
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Clutching at straws?
Nah, you are quite right to believe whatever you want - even if there isn't any evidence to support it man.
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Old 7th March 2008, 5:18pm   #36
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Re: Season 4: Episode 5.

I think illness was just made up to keep the kurgan pressin that button.
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Re: Season 4: Episode 5.

I got the impression back then that Kelvin was pretending, he knew there wasn't any danger of getting ill, but there probably used to be. He just said that to stop Desmond from leaving the hatch, while Kelvin patched up the boat (if my memory serves). He knew someone had to keep pushing the button but he wanted to leave, had been waiting for a replacement for years.

New question, what happened to the dharma innitiative, not all of the operatives could have been on the island, did they just give up when the natives killed them all? What's the hanso foundation doing now? And why didn't Kelvin get killed when Ben wiped them all out? Surely the natives would know about the hatch and its importance, but they didn't seem to care about it. And Ben was the one who put the idea in Locke's head, that pushing the button didn't matter. Why would he want the hatch to explode? Especially as it made the island briefly visible to the outside world...

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Re: Season 4: Episode 5.

I find it funny that people are suddenly believing Ben. But Ben isn't that smart anyway, if i was him then Lost would have been a tv movie.

plane crashes
others wait 3 days
turn up on boat with gas masks on
warn survivors of possible infection
take the women and children first, saying "they're at most risk"
put gas masks on them
gas the whole island once it's only the male survivors left
the end.
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I disagree with basically everything Stew said there ^
I maintain the sickness and this timetravelling lark are separate things.
After episode 6 I sit here in my wrongness. Apologies. That gas could be the cause of the sickness, perhaps. The HASMAT suits being worn outside until the effects had dissipated.

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take the women and children first, saying "they're at most risk"
put gas masks on them
gas the whole island once it's only the male survivors left
the end.
I find it hard to believe that you're going to take all the children and women, kill the men and then end it. It sounds like a night out for Garry Glitter and Pete Docherty.

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Re: Season 4: Episode 5.

Does anybody think Jacob could be the Black Rocks first mate? I can't find other threads about it on lost forums if you have seen one please direct me.
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