Event: The Internet vs Scientology - Edinburgh. Saturday 15th March - Page 4

Dux0r · 18th March 2008, 9:23pm

Also, here's a video from the 15th in case anyone is interested:

YouTube - Anonymous Edinburgh Scientology protest...

pANDAS Radio · 20th March 2008, 3:19am

Nice distraction from not answering the questions.

Look, a cute puppy.

YouTube - cute puppy

endless psych · 20th March 2008, 3:22am

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Originally Posted by pANDAS Radio

Nice distraction from not answering the questions.

...and exactly which of your questions have not been answered already?

Is it the rather tedious there are more important things to protest then this why not do that? one.

Or the rather rhetorical its just a bunch of wacky internet types and not worth taking seriously isn't it? one.

pANDAS Radio · 20th March 2008, 3:32am

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Originally Posted by Dux0r

YouTube - Anonymous Edinburgh Scientology protest 15th March

I like the fact that the video waits until the last seconds to show anyone accepting a flyer. The "Fair Game Is Lame" poster is my favourite since Anon has essentially declared Scientology as Fair Game. When is the next 'Cathouse Hallowe'en Queue' outing btw?

But hey, it's all about the lulz. That's how all good protests should be, it's not like the Faslane Peace Camp closed intentionally because of all the "day tripper protestors".

endless psych · 20th March 2008, 3:36am

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it's not like the Faslane Peace Camp closed intentionally because of all the "day tripper protestors".

Besides being almost entirely irrelevent... are you secretly, or maybe not so secretly on reflection, advocating some sort of protest 'elitism'. IE only the right kind of people can protest and raise awareness, we don't want your type here...

Hmmmmmmm...

pANDAS Radio · 20th March 2008, 3:47am

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Originally Posted by endless psych

Is it the rather tedious there are more important things to protest then this why not do that? one.

Or the rather rhetorical its just a bunch of wacky internet types and not worth taking seriously isn't it? one.

A combination really. Basically, "why do these protests look like a joke to onlookers?" and "don't you realise how easy it is to be taken seriously?".

I've been on many. many, many marches and protests so i'm not surprised at the pictures of attendees. I don't mean appearance, i mean the obvious age group. It is a protest designed to appeal to Alt forum users and has no obvious plans to broaden itself. Hell, Anon is a bunch of pranksters who most likely find it more comical than useful that people attend these gatherings.

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Originally Posted by endless psych

Besides being almost entirely irrelevent... are you secretly, or maybe not so secretly on reflection, advocating some sort of protest 'elitism'. IE only the right kind of people can protest and raise awareness, we don't want your type here...

Hmmmmmmm...

If you mean that I'd rather "serious" protestors then yes. I'd rather see 1 serious organised protest than 100 protests " for the lulz". And I'd hazard a guess that other protest groups haven't got involved for that very reason.

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Originally Posted by endless psych

Besides being almost entirely irrelevent...

It isn't. following the birth of the (household based[to avoid pedants]) internet that protest saw more visitors than protestors, there was also a massive increase in the number of people who "went to stay just to have a laugh". Protesting is a right and should be taken seriously. The simplest way to undermine a protest is to make it look like a joke, so getting Anon covered on the news does the Scientoligist's job for them.

MarkMono · 20th March 2008, 11:32am

The idea that Anonymous aren't 'serious' enough for anyone is far funnier than anything Anonymous have done themselves.

**LesMTS** · 20th March 2008, 11:46am

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Originally Posted by pANDAS Radio

A combination really. Basically, "why do these protests look like a joke to onlookers?" and "don't you realise how easy it is to be taken seriously?".

I've been on many. many, many marches and protests so i'm not surprised at the pictures of attendees. I don't mean appearance, i mean the obvious age group. It is a protest designed to appeal to Alt forum users and has no obvious plans to broaden itself. Hell, Anon is a bunch of pranksters who most likely find it more comical than useful that people attend these gatherings.

If you mean that I'd rather "serious" protestors then yes. I'd rather see 1 serious organised protest than 100 protests " for the lulz". And I'd hazard a guess that other protest groups haven't got involved for that very reason.

It isn't. following the birth of the (household based[to avoid pedants]) internet that protest saw more visitors than protestors, there was also a massive increase in the number of people who "went to stay just to have a laugh". Protesting is a right and should be taken seriously. The simplest way to undermine a protest is to make it look like a joke, so getting Anon covered on the news does the Scientoligist's job for them.

Why have the protests and general campaign been such a massive success then? Scientology is on a wild goose chase, trying to fight an enemy it doesn't understand and making a mockery of itself in the courts. Questions about tax have been raised in the senate. It's status as a religion is actually under threat after anon's campaign to write to local politicians. The street protests are just one face of this.
The old time anti-scientology groups have got behind anon and even admitted that anon has done more damage in two months than they have in decades. Mark Bunker has described anon as a "massive PR disaster" for scientology. This is the guy who initially asked anon to stop because they were endangering all the work he and the old time protestors had done.

**LesMTS** · 20th March 2008, 11:55am

In a little over two months Anonymous have rocked the boat considerably. These are the kind of results "serious" (if you want to make that distinction) protest groups spend years, even decades, chipping away at.
It seems to me that, if results are your aim, it's the "serious" groups that are doing it wrong.