Student tazed for not having ID - Page 2

endless psych · 17th November 2006, 9:50pm

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Originally Posted by TohGoPoh

he is a man! man don't cry!

obv i'm not being serious, did you guys read the comemnts below it? how he's suing them for being racist and that when they've not said anything racist towards him? well nothing we can hear anyway.

Um... Perhaps because (as his name suggests) he may be of arabic extraction... Would this have happened to a non-ethnic student?

StuntGirl · 17th November 2006, 9:51pm

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Originally Posted by TohGoPoh

he is a man! man don't cry!

obv i'm not being serious, did you guys read the comemnts below it? how he's suing them for being racist and that when they've not said anything racist towards him? well nothing we can hear anyway.

i guess he could argue that the force of the attack (I'd consider it an attack) and the current political climate and the fact that noone else has been treated in this manner (i mean, i doubt he was the only person in the library without ID) would all point to it being a racially motivated attack. I would suppose. And fucking quite right too.

¡Punk! · 18th November 2006, 12:23am

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Originally Posted by LesMTS

I'm trying...I'm trying real hard to look at this objectively. There's nothing to say he would have been treated differently had his name been Buzz Kelman....nothing at all.

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Originally Posted by LesMTS

Buzz Kelman

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Originally Posted by LesMTS

Buzz

Enough of the puns already!

i_am_blip · 18th November 2006, 2:41am

Jesus fucking christ.

sylvianorth · 18th November 2006, 12:16pm

Thats absolutely awful

I always make jokes about library security guards being way too over the top in my Uni, and now I feel bad.

nevali · 18th November 2006, 12:22pm

Telling him to stand up with the threat of further tazing (and I think they did when he failed to, too, it was a little hard to tell) demonstrates if nothing else a lack of training, and cops who are lacking in training shouldn't really be permitted anywhere near a tazer.

**djtoast** · 18th November 2006, 12:43pm

We desperately need successful prosecutions for this sort of abuse to encourage police persons to act responsibly for their own sakes, since they repeatedly demonstrate that they subjugate the rights of the public far too swiftly.

The number of high-profile examples of police escaping the justice they're enforcing so very badly is mind-boggling. Cressida Dick's promotion simply astonsihes me still.

You'd hope that the prevalence of video-camera-phones etc would redress the balance as police become aware they're liable to verifiable scrutiny, but it doesn't yet seem to be helping, just making us more aware of the problem

Withnail · 18th November 2006, 12:59pm

Are they cops or are they campus security? Appaling either way. Even the statement that was added ' was repeatedly stunned with a tazer' - so why THE FUCK did you try and make him stand up after?!

**djtoast** · 18th November 2006, 1:01pm

Cops, I believe.

nevali · 18th November 2006, 1:12pm

Cops, called to reinforce an on-campus volunteer patrol, I believe.

Sgt Craig · 18th November 2006, 7:00pm

http://www.break.com/index/student_g...having_id.html

Another video showing US cops going a tad over the top with their toys.

I reckon that the kid should have taken the hint and complied with their commands right at the begining but at the same time i'm pretty shocked at the lack of power by the cops, there are 3-4 of them vs. one skinny UCLA student, and he's not putting up a huge fight other than a bit of shouting, yet it takes them a good 5 minutes and a number of taser shots to get him under control ( i liked the fact that one of the cops just seemed to say 'stand up, stand up' over and over again, rather than actually doing anything).

In this country it would have taken two cops with any very little public order training less than a minute to get him cuffed and in the back of a van and they wouldn't even touch their batons or CS spray.

dunno if this vid has been posted already, and to be honest the video it's self is a bit pish, but it serves as a wee bit more evidence of the culture gap between here and 'oor there.

**djtoast** · 18th November 2006, 7:08pm

*merge*

Yeah, it is shocking. Amazing that they could be so brazen in front of so many witnesses even it it wasn't being filmed.

*LesMTS* · 18th November 2006, 7:11pm

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Originally Posted by Sgt Craig

http://www.break.com/index/student_g...having_id.html

Another video showing US cops going a tad over the top with their toys.

I reckon that the kid should have taken the hint and complied with their commands right at the begining but at the same time i'm pretty shocked at the lack of power by the cops, there are 3-4 of them vs. one skinny UCLA student, and he's not putting up a huge fight other than a bit of shouting, yet it takes them a good 5 minutes and a number of taser shots to get him under control ( i liked the fact that one of the cops just seemed to say 'stand up, stand up' over and over again, rather than actually doing anything).

In this country it would have taken two cops with any very little public order training less than a minute to get him cuffed and in the back of a van and they wouldn't even touch their batons or CS spray.

dunno if this vid has been posted already, and to be honest the video it's self is a bit pish, but it serves as a wee bit more evidence of the culture gap between here and 'oor there.

I don't know if the length of time it took them to get him under control is really the issue here, I'm looking at their ineptitude from quite a different angle.

Sgt Craig · 18th November 2006, 7:13pm

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Originally Posted by LesMTS

I don't know if the length of time it took them to get him under control is really the issue here, I'm looking at their ineptitude from quite a different angle.

Fair point, it think it's safe to say they failed on almost all the requirements of their task.

**djtoast** · 18th November 2006, 7:14pm

They did seem to be using it to punish him, not to control him/protect themselves, which is surely wrong?