Student tazed for not having ID - Page 3

Largest of Als · 18th November 2006, 7:16pm

Ach.. he's only a bloody student.. probably did him the world of good.. get him off his lazy arse...

Al

PrincessGarnet · 18th November 2006, 9:43pm

He wasn't tazer for not having his ID he was asked to leave probably a number of times for the campus police to be called. It is a matter of security for every student after 11pm to have an ID in that uni and regularly someone comes around to check and if you don't have it you have to leave. It's an established policy. Of course it was a complete over reaction by the police but why did he stay and wait for them? He was also abusive before they touched him and then started shouting about the patriot act, people with victim mentalities are not good especially if they put themselves in situations to try and confirm it and if this is what he wanted then he certainly has, apparently all the campus is behind him. Of course it's hard to know exactly what was going through the police and the students mind. Again I will repeat the police clearly over reacted and i don't agree with the use of tasers, they could have easily forcibly escorted him out.

anglarna · 21st November 2006, 5:49pm

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Originally Posted by PrincessGarnet

He wasn't tazer for not having his ID he was asked to leave probably a number of times for the campus police to be called. It is a matter of security for every student after 11pm to have an ID in that uni and regularly someone comes around to check and if you don't have it you have to leave. It's an established policy. Of course it was a complete over reaction by the police but why did he stay and wait for them? He was also abusive before they touched him and then started shouting about the patriot act, people with victim mentalities are not good especially if they put themselves in situations to try and confirm it and if this is what he wanted then he certainly has, apparently all the campus is behind him. Of course it's hard to know exactly what was going through the police and the students mind. Again I will repeat the police clearly over reacted and i don't agree with the use of tasers, they could have easily forcibly escorted him out.

Oh, come now.

Will_Couper · 21st November 2006, 6:06pm

Those are some tazer-happy law enforcement officers. At the end I heard one of them threatening another of the students with a tazering, just for, it seemed wanting his badge number.

Will

Hayabusa · 19th September 2007, 9:10am

I was going to make a seperate thread but i thought i'd just post it in here.

A student at the University of Florida is tazered and arrested for resisting arrest after causing a disturbance asking a few questions during a Q&A with John Kerry.

Pretty disgusting whatever way you look at it, you could say the guy was a little annoying to begin with and did become a little agitated when they cut his mic and thus didn't get an answer to any of his questions, but the way the situation spiralled out of control was pretty outrageous. I know John Kerry's a senator and all but the fact there were so many police there never mind the campus police is a bit baffling, he's a vietnam vet man!

YouTube - UF Student Tasered taser John Kerry...

YouTube - UF Student tasered at John Kerry Speech

YouTube - UF Student Tasered at John Kerry Q...

Woolies · 19th September 2007, 9:48am

But tasers were designed & intended for when the victim is already on the ground being restrained by five folks, that's when people are most dangerous~!

I hate parents who hit their kids in supermarkets just because the parent is embarrassed.

UncleDave · 19th September 2007, 10:14am

This guy is a troublemaker, though. Notwithstanding unsubstantiated third-hand rumours that he's done this sort of thing before, it's pretty obvious from the videos that he had already noised up the cops by the time he even got to speak. According to Kerry's Blog, the guy 'barged' to the front of the line and may have had words with the cops prior to this incident. And when the cops tried to escort him out, he immediately started yelling about being arrested, when they may well have simply been going to escort him from the building. And he talks bollocks about the police intending to kill him and other such paranoid fantasy.

That said, the cops totally over-reacted, perhaps because, as someone suggested, they were cadets who should never have been in charge of a stapler, never mind a taser. They couldnt think of a good reason to remove him from the premises in the first place, "inciting a riot" my left foot. Nobody cared when he was ranting, hell they appluaded when the cops started to take him away. Nobody even really cared when he started whining about being arrested, it seemed to me that it was only when they threatened to, and then did taser him unnecessarily, that people realised that the cops really were acting like arseholes.

A bit later I hear he was charged with the offense of disrupting a public meeting or something like that, to which there might be a shred of substance unlike the inciting a riot baloney, but they way it was dealt with at the time is almost as if the cops WANT us to hate them.

Cheers!

Hayabusa · 19th September 2007, 1:11pm

If their rationale for disrupting a meeting is asking perfectly valid questions then fair enough.

Largest of Als · 19th September 2007, 1:17pm

Believe it or not, in many of these situations, the cops arent alowed to physically restrain someone unless the person has been 'supposedly' subdued by a taser or pepper spray.

Too many people were getting hurt and sueing the cops.

It's great to be in America.. the 'criminals' have more rights then the cops, and professional aggitators like this one, know how to use this to their advantage..

Basically.. did the cops over react.. YES
Was the guy blameless for the incident.. NO
Off the record.. did he deserve it.. MOST LIKELY

Al

Hayabusa · 19th September 2007, 1:28pm

On closer inspection it may have been the yellow incendiary device he was holding on to that caused so much strife.

**djtoast** · 19th September 2007, 1:33pm

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There are people that know I'm here, you can't just... kill me

It's indefensible to taze someone who's already been restrained, surely? I'm pretty sure it's not meant to be used to punish people, but he was already under control. Sheesh.

Sticky foam, that's what they shoulda used!

Dec · 19th September 2007, 1:58pm

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Originally Posted by Largest of Als

Off the record.. did he deserve it.. MOST LIKELY

What on earth could he possibly 'deserve' to be tased for?

endless psych · 19th September 2007, 2:08pm

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Originally Posted by Largest of Als

Believe it or not, in many of these situations, the cops arent alowed to physically restrain someone unless the person has been 'supposedly' subdued by a taser or pepper spray.

Which is obviously a far better solution for American law enforcement rather then extensive training on "safe" restraint techniques or the application of reasonable force. Actually does anyone know what (or indeed if it has) the American legal systems definition of reasonable force is?

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It's great to be in America.. the 'criminals' have more rights then the cops, and professional aggitators like this one, know how to use this to their advantage..

Yes its terrible that the police don't have the right to beat suspects during the process of detaining them... Criminals having more "rights" then police? Seriously?

sjonit · 19th September 2007, 2:21pm

He didnt have ID. he refused to leave. He became abusive and aggressive. He was tazered......wheres the problem ?

Frankie LiDeo · 19th September 2007, 2:22pm

Tase, tase, tase, tase,
t-t-t-t-t-tase tase