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Old 7th October 2004, 11:14pm   #1
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Bullying 'factor' in boy's suicide

It's always really sad when you read or hear about stories like the one below. I think it was about a year or so ago that a girl in Dundee hanged herself because she was being bullied. These stories always get lost amid the headline grabbers and also because its not exactly a vote winning topic. In Bowling For Columbine I thought the interview with Trey Parker & Matt Stone on the effects of small town bullying were really insightful, that if only those kids had realised that if they could have hung in there for a bit longer that they'd eventually be able to leave high-school behind and realise that there way a different daily existence ahead of them.

People who don't understand or know much about severe depression and/or bullying can sometimes become angry with the idea of someone taking their own life. They can't understand why the person can't think logically. But its when you come to the conclusion that things will never get any better, that you couldnt face another day, that people sometimes harm themselves to try and escape. If you're in that mindset the last thing you wanna hear is some asshole tell you that "you've got your whole life ahead of you" and all the other cliches. If you dont think tomorrow is gonna be any better then you dont fucking care about whats "ahead of you". Depression lies to you. And you start listening to all the negative voices in your head. And unless you have people around you that love you and support you then it's very difficult to pull through that mindset.

And unfortunately sometimes even that isnt enough.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/3723692.stm

A schoolboy hanged himself five days before his 18th birthday after being taunted by bullies, an inquest heard.

Jamie Sell, 17, a pupil at Cantonian High School in Fairwater, Cardiff, endured "torment" on the day he killed himself, the hearing was told.

Jamie's mother, Denise, said she did not find out about the bullying until after his suicide.

Coroner Ian Edwards said he did not think the bullying was the main reason why the teenager had killed himself but said "it didn't help".

The hearing was told the teenager was attacked in the street on the day that he died by bullies who threw stones and sticks at him.

I used to think he would tell me anything - he always made out that nothing bothered him but obviously it did - Jamie Sell's mother, Denise

Police investigations revealed that he had been afraid to say anything to friends and family.

Kimberly Matthews, a 17-year-old student, told the coroner: "As Jamie was walking down the road he looked at one of the kids and they said 'what are you looking at?"'

"Jamie said nothing, they just started throwing stones and sticks and cans, whatever they could find."

"About three of them had been giving him a hard time. They were just really nasty people generally. They used to spit at me in the street."

Pc Steve Simmonds, investigated the death in September last year, said: "Jamie was suffering a form of bullying. People are silent about being bullied.

"They are afraid to speak out."

I hope those persons who contributed to his turmoil take stock

Coroner Ian Edwards

Jamie's mother told the hearing that she returned to their home in the Llandaff area of the city to find her son.

She said: "I used to think he would tell me anything. I knew he had problems at school and he had got behind with his A-levels, but I thought he had sorted it out.

"He seemed so laid back. He always made out that nothing bothered him but obviously it did."

Failed exams

The inquest heard that the teenager had also fallen behind in his school work and failed some exams.

He had written, but not sent, a letter to teachers pleading for a second chance.

Coroner Ian Edwards said: "What had been going on was the normal trials and tribulations teenagers suffer today.

"Perhaps they don't have an opportunity to think tomorrow will be better. There was some suggestion that Jamie was bullied and I'm sure he was.

"I think it was more verbal than physical although things had been thrown at him.

"I don't think this was the main reason why Jamie took his life but it didn't help.


Laura Rhodes said she was bullied about being overweight

"I hope those persons who contributed to his turmoil take stock and question whether they had any influence on Jamie's fateful decision."

The case has come a month after the controversy following the death of 13-year-old Laura Rhodes, from Neath.

Laura died of a suspected drugs overdose in an apparent suicide pact with a friend, 14-year-old Rebecca Ling, who survived.

After her funeral, Laura's family released a letter she had written describing how she had been bullied and was deeply unhappy.
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Re: Bullying 'factor' in boy's suicide

That's really sad, and it seems to be happening more and more these days... people say to speak out, and to tell someone, but sometimes that makes it worse... I remember when me and other kids at school got bullied, we never bothered telling anyone because it'd just make them worse... you never know what to do in that situation... anyone got any ideas?
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Old 8th October 2004, 3:03pm   #3
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Bullying 'factor' in boy's suicide

It depends a lot on particular circumstances.
Some schools are simply rubbish at dealing with these kinds of problems.

Sometimes you may have to try more than one approach.
Talking about how you feel to someone you trust is a good start.
Things always seem bigger and more severe when you bottle them up in your head.
Remember that it wont last forever, even when it feels like it will.
Nothing ever does in this life.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/schools/bullying/ - BBC site about bullying

http://www.bullying.co.uk/

http://www.scre.ac.uk/bully/

http://www.nobully.org.nz/advicek.htm

http://www.antibullying.net/

http://www.education.unisa.edu.au/bullying/

http://www.dfes.gov.uk/bullying/

http://www.student.city.ac.uk/~rc313/bullying.html

http://www.childline.org.uk/Bullying.asp

http://www.successunlimited.co.uk/ - books about bullying /
Post Traumatic Stress Disorder

http://www.bullyonline.org/ - at workplace

If you are genuinely suicidal, try resurrecting your anger. It's when you can't even be bothered to be angry that you're losing the battle.

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Re: Bullying 'factor' in boy's suicide

seriously. you made me cry. i hate the idea of anyone being unhappy, and sometimes i wish that a hug COULD make it all better
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